Honda CR-Z: Manual or Auto?

[thetrystero]

The CR-Z is on my list of considerations for my first car. The looks are killer and I'm a sucker for it, so I'll willingly forgo the lack of space. But more importantly, manual or auto?

My dilemma: lots of city driving, but I want to turbocharge/supercharge it at some point down the road when I get another 'family' car. And there's also the obvious disjuncture between the fact that I want this to be a sports car and having auto on it. I know, I know it's not a 'real' sports car blabla but as long as I think of it as one it's all good

So, will going auto limit my souping abilities down the road? How difficult will it be to change it to a manual? There's also the fact that I'm paying more for auto now, and then even more to downgrade to a manual.

Thoughts?

 

[kcng]

"sports" car are supposed to be purist... i.e. manual...

unless u are talking about cars like Lambo, GTR-35 etc...
regardless auto or manual, they have gazillion HP under the hood...
so they can afford to have loads of HP losses in transmission and still put out gazillion HP...

so yeah...
can your 120-ish HP "sports" car afford that?

 

[Tom]

If you have big plans for the engine in the future, there is no doubt the manual will be the ideal choice. If you're a manual person.

If you're more of an automatic person, as a daily driver, taking advantage of the whole green tech, boost from the electric motor, i would recommend the automatic. which i think compliments the whole hybrid car enjoyment. Choose the manual only if you have to drive a manual.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

From what you wrote, you sounded like you are quite fond of the manual or else you wouldn't have asked whether can you change the transmission back to manual. You also sounded like you're interested in modifying the CR-Z someday in the future. It's quite clear which one you should go for right? Take the manual.

 

[?nDc?s?ve]

The question is.. How far down the road is far? 1-2 years? 5-6 years?

If you can do an estimation it would be better.. if you really daily drive it in jams everyday then perhaps you should stick to auto..

but if it is a year or two, then perhaps you can get an manual and endure it for awhile as it will save you $$$ and hassle should you go down the ++ HP route..

end day, you need to ask yourself.. how much are u willing to sacrifice for that thirst of power and joy of driving.. nothing beats the pleasure of stick shifting :)

 

[pwhyze]

2 questions.

How soon can you get a 'daily' car and are you able to drive a manual in a jam for before that period?

The way you wrote 'sometime down the road' makes me feel like it's not anytime soon. If so, are you able to tolerate the manual shifting in city driving? Some people can, some people can't.

If you are serious about modding it, then it only points to one direction. Doubt the standard CVT can take much abuse from a FI engine.

 

[PocketRocket]

CRZ for looks, K20 for power only then it will be a sports car

 

[ddv_nk12]

Couldn't agree more!!

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

If you are really getting a family car real soon, then you can opt for a Manual CR-Z. Manual CR-Z is definitely much more fun to drive if you are the type who are into performance. Like many said, if you plan to do modifications on the CR-Z, manual is always the better choice. Auto will be limited anyhow.

At least you have family car as daily car and CR-Z manual for weekends.

If not, how long can you stand driving manual in such a legendary traffic in the city of KL?
Unless you really love the car and decided that manual is the thing you want, then traffic you wont
mind I guess.

Izso drives manual in KL everyday

Most answers are already mentioned by the rest of the sifus here.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

If you are really getting a family car real soon, then you can opt for a Manual CR-Z. Manual CR-Z is definitely much more fun to drive if you are the type who are into performance. Like many said, if you plan to do modifications on the CR-Z, manual is always the better choice. Auto will be limited anyhow.

At least you have family car as daily car and CR-Z manual for weekends.

If not, how long can you stand driving manual in such a legendary traffic in the city of KL?
Unless you really love the car and decided that manual is the thing you want, then traffic you wont
mind I guess.

Izso drives manual in KL everyday

Most answers are already mentioned by the rest of the sifus here.

Drive manual at KL need to see what type of clutch your car is using. If cable clutch like old saga, you sure habis already.

 

[PocketRocket]

But if you're a real enthusiast, the "cling cling cling" clutch also no problem

 

[DanzEterna]

remember "real man uses 3 pedals" haha.....

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

remember "real man uses 3 pedals" haha.....

Guess I'm a classy man for now

 

[RENESIS VIII]

But if you're a real enthusiast, the "cling cling cling" clutch also no problem

What's that?

remember "real man uses 3 pedals" haha.....

Nice. I often drive the old 1.3 Saga Iswara manual and I know the clutch feels heavy. Tried 1.5 Wira manual before and the clutch feels way lot better than Saga. Not to mention that the sitting position and gear stick in wira is way better than Saga. :top: Wira's gearstick had a shorter length and it feels nice compared to that long stick in Saga... Even though many said that Wira is a junk car or something, I still think it is quite a good car. (Since it is based on the Lancer that becomes the base for the first Lancer Evolution, haha)

Guess I'm a classy man for now

Speechless. Automatic transmission drivers have come up with their own quotes now...

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

What's that?



Nice. I often drive the old 1.3 Saga Iswara manual and I know the clutch feels heavy. Tried 1.5 Wira manual before and the clutch feels way lot better than Saga. Not to mention that the sitting position and gear stick in wira is way better than Saga. :top: Wira's gearstick had a shorter length and it feels nice compared to that long stick in Saga... Even though many said that Wira is a junk car or something, I still think it is quite a good car. (Since it is based on the Lancer that becomes the base for the first Lancer Evolution, haha)



Speechless. Automatic transmission drivers have come up with their own quotes now...

Now we can come up with another. "I drive with 2 pedals just because I own a Skyline GT-R35" or "My car comes with only 2 pedals, is a Nissan Skyline GT-R35" :top:

Classy man :top:

 

[PocketRocket]

ahh...thats the ORC clutch that makes that metal-ish sound when engaged

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Now we can come up with another. "I drive with 2 pedals just because I own a Skyline GT-R35" or "My car comes with only 2 pedals, is a Nissan Skyline GT-R35" :top:

Classy man :top:

R35 GT-R is a very good and fast car... But no more manual transmission and it kinda felt like it has lost a little bit of JDM performance car characteristics (no clutch and gearstick shifting feel)
But this is also one of the reason why many people went for R35 already compared to R34 last time. Because R35 is using automatic transmission. Yeah, I know it is double clutch but the way to operate it is still same like auto cars.

ahh...thats the ORC clutch that makes that metal-ish sound when engaged

Very old type of clutch?? First time I've heard about this. :hmmmm:

 

[PocketRocket]

OGURA Racing Clutch Twin Plate Sound (kring2) - YouTube

NitinJ - Baller Clutch Sound - YouTube

CR-Z single plate ORC is about RM3000. I strapped on my jet pack and flew away aimlessly

 

[RENESIS VIII]

OGURA Racing Clutch Twin Plate Sound (kring2) - YouTube

NitinJ - Baller Clutch Sound - YouTube

CR-Z single plate ORC is about RM3000. I strapped on my jet pack and flew away aimlessly

Hehe, thanks for the info. I learned something new today. But can you roughly tell me what are the benefits of using this kling kling clutch? And it really feels heavier than cable clutch?

 

[PocketRocket]

Arh...i also unsure...lighter? larger contact patch? To me the sound is bragging rights and marketing.... But i'm sure there's its benefits