Which 1.6L used car to go?

[KenDiriwan]

I thought they fit in nicely since 4A-GE and their original 4A-FE is almost the same size. Or is it even the 4A-FE is tightly fitted?

Because engine and components of 4age are way bigger.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Because engine and components of 4age are way bigger.

The engine bay size for AE101 and AE111 Sprinter Trueno/Levin are also larger than their SEG counterparts then?

 

[bera]

tight fit yes...but i dont think there to much differences...engine mount practically the same although not interchangeable between 4afe and 4age (only apply to 1.6 chassis...1.3 need to mod a bit)

some JDM corolla model come factory equipped with 4age...come to think of it manufacturer wont meddle around with chassis to much...they prep the chassis to be equipped with different type of engine setup...

 

[KenDiriwan]

Only difference ae111 trueno/levin has bigger upfront space of radiator fan due to front nose(bumper+grill+headlamp) design. The rest are same.

Some even mod ae111 levin bzr nosecut into ae101 body

 

[ixeo]

Guys,

Plan to bring in an used car for my mid range distance travel.
Due to budget concern,
yrs 1993 7th gen Toyota 1.6L SEG (M) and 5th gen Honda Civic 1.6L EFI (M) are short listed in my plan.

Need opinion here:

- Which car have

1) Cheaper maintenance cost
2) Handling
3) Better fuel consumption
4) After market performance parts
5) Better Chassis quality
6) Accessories support such power window, central locking etc.

Please advise... Thx

R3 Satria Neo. And i mean the real R3 Satria Neo and not the one with r3 bodykit as cosmetics only.

145hp and 168nm of torque..for a 1.6L what's more can we ask for

If not then SEG with Blacktop 4AGE.

I agree with Supra_Fanatics. Especially that RM35k Satria Neo Clubsport! Its literally all bells and whistles already in. Those Toyota SEGs are too old la. Ever head of metal fatigue? Halfway round a corner the car patah in 2 not funny lor. Those old AE86 you see on track in Japan are already reinforced, probably spot welded.

1. Cheap maintenance cost. Its a Proton, plenty of parts, it is a N/A Campro, straightforward engine.
2. Track ready Lotus tuned, what do you think?
3. Its a N/A with Haltech interceptor. You don't floor the pedal you will get decent FC. Its a manual so no loss of fuel economy from torque converter.
4. After market performance parts? Already installed.
5. Its chassis is newer than the cars you shortlisted. It has a semi-permanent rollcage included. As they say.. apa lagi u mau?
6. Not sure if the power window and central locking still there, but can be easily installed back.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

tight fit yes...but i dont think there to much differences...engine mount practically the same although not interchangeable between 4afe and 4age (only apply to 1.6 chassis...1.3 need to mod a bit)

some JDM corolla model come factory equipped with 4age...come to think of it manufacturer wont meddle around with chassis to much...they prep the chassis to be equipped with different type of engine setup...

Those are called Corolla Ceres or Sprinter Marino if I am not mistaken. Comes with frameless doors. Looks nice and sporty but difficult to find those here.

Only difference ae111 trueno/levin has bigger upfront space of radiator fan due to front nose(bumper+grill+headlamp) design. The rest are same.

Some even mod ae111 levin bzr nosecut into ae101 body

Haha, I've seen those nosecut conversion before. Looks good. AE101 Trueno/Levin can do it too right? This is the one I saw before.

 

[boyzone]

These several days are busy to survey the car. However, I did notice a 97' proton putra with milage at 65k km only..
is rare and hard to find a 100% stock for Putra... :)

 

[john_unai]

how about honda accord sv4 with h22a engine from d same era with corolla seg 1.6?
price is almost same but with bigger engine cc, part reliability i dunno la but dis car cheap leh. oth than that i dunno.. dis car no good ar? :hmmmm2::questionmark:

 

[Izso]

how about honda accord sv4 with h22a engine from d same era with corolla seg 1.6?
price is almost same but with bigger engine cc, part reliability i dunno la but dis car cheap leh. oth than that i dunno.. dis car no good ar? :hmmmm2::questionmark:

SV4 is a good car, but parts are very hard to come by. H22A is a good engine too, but prepare loads of cash to repair it when it breaks, it's not a cheap engine to maintain mainly because of its age!

 

[RENESIS VIII]

SV4 is heavier than Civic and Corolla. Might not be as agile than the both of them. Stability at high speed might be better though. Roadtax also more expensive for 2.2 litre...

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

SV4 is heavier than Civic and Corolla. Might not be as agile than the both of them. Stability at high speed might be better though. Roadtax also more expensive for 2.2 litre...

So no longer a budget used car
If want consider SV4 then Prelude is also another to consider.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

So no longer a budget used car
If want consider SV4 then Prelude is also another to consider.

Prelude got so cheap? Good thing is, got sports car look. But not those first generation one, hehe.

 

[john_unai]

yup, roadtax is expensive & its 20 yrs old car. going for d manual transmission might be better option for cheaper maintenance.. sourcing for part might be slightly hard & expensive if kedai potong dun have it. but dis car is still really look nice wor..

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So no longer a budget used car
If want consider SV4 then Prelude is also another to consider.

prelude is expensive la bro, unless u go for d old prelude la.

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Prelude got so cheap? Good thing is, got sports car look. But not those first generation one, hehe.

Yes, Older generation one is cheaper RM20K but saw one latest one also around there. But some selling RM50K also.

http://www.mudah.my/Honda+Prelude+E+BA8+H22A+2+2+A+MALAY+OWNER+96-26288463.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Honda+Prelude+A+4ws+auto-26703117.htm?last=1

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Yes, Older generation one is cheaper RM20K but saw one latest one also around there. But some selling RM50K also.

http://www.mudah.my/Honda+Prelude+E+BA8+H22A+2+2+A+MALAY+OWNER+96-26288463.htm

http://www.mudah.my/Honda+Prelude+A+4ws+auto-26703117.htm?last=1

Wa, the old one got 4WS system. Four Wheel Steering. I wonder still working or not.

But why the 2nd Prelude is being sold so cheap under 20k. Even EK Civic is not easy to get such price. Probably because it is auto and expensive maintenance?

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Wa, the old one got 4WS system. Four Wheel Steering. I wonder still working or not.

But why the 2nd Prelude is being sold so cheap under 20k. Even EK Civic is not easy to get such price. Probably because it is auto and expensive maintenance?

Heard it drinks fuel like crazy Is a nice design car but not fancy by many. Other than that I'm not sure why.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Heard it drinks fuel like crazy Is a nice design car but not fancy by many. Other than that I'm not sure why.

Sure la. 2.2 litre... Go for B18C Type R also not that bad.

 

[g88]

Guys,

Plan to bring in an used car for my mid range distance travel.
Due to budget concern,
yrs 1993 7th gen Toyota 1.6L SEG (M) and 5th gen Honda Civic 1.6L EFI (M) are short listed in my plan.

Need opinion here:

- Which car have

1) Cheaper maintenance cost
2) Handling
3) Better fuel consumption
4) After market performance parts
5) Better Chassis quality
6) Accessories support such power window, central locking etc.

Please advise... Thx

What is your budget ? mid range travel as in daily return way 100-150km ? Or mostly outstation ? Do you need carry stuff or passenger ? Also do you plan to mod the car or drive as stock ?

 

[vr2turbo]

yup, roadtax is expensive & its 20 yrs old car. going for d manual transmission might be better option for cheaper maintenance.. sourcing for part might be slightly hard & expensive if kedai potong dun have it. but dis car is still really look nice wor.

That is why keep below 2.0 then turbo it......

 

[RENESIS VIII]

That is why keep below 2.0 then turbo it......

If turbo already, FC there will not be good anymore. Eh, we off track already. Don't 1.6 then jump to 2.2 NA and later jump to 2.0 turbo below.