Engine oil and petrol brand (most controversial topic lol)

[6UE5t]

He not into technical aspect of the oil mah! He IT sifu......

Still he is a car guy who worked on an well known oil company, I'd think he would know more than typical guy like me la.

 

[vr2turbo]

What is hdeo, share abit le

Heavy Duty Engine Oil (HDEO) is more to reference diesel engine oil.
But there are those that are strictly for diesel engine with C rating only and there are those usable for both diesel and petrol with C and S rating....

 

[vr2turbo]

Still he is a car guy who worked on an well known oil company, I'd think he would know more than typical guy like me la.

Well, all depends whether the person into it or not. Like me, professional working was in Logistics, but hobbies were cars, tyres, oil and detailing....

 

[marsha1l_v6]

Wow what car you drive? Using 60.. I used 40 I already feel very heavy haha.

BTW 4g15.. Missed that engine rip evo line. I feel very bad for people who bought lancer 10 in Malaysia. Everyone will just assume it's a inspira

Driving perdanalution.. Evo3 engine perdana..

 

[eques]

Driving perdanalution.. Evo3 engine perdana..

Haha I feel like its very heavy eh, why you using 60. What engine your perdana using

 

[Izso]

Still not the same because the properties will be different. Mineral oils cannot reach as high viscosity index, flash points, and other characteristics of full synth oils, so if say you use mineral oils on high performance engines and rev it to the max even before reaching 2-3k km the properties of the oil should already get significantly deteriorated I'd think. Maybe if you just use normal cars and drive normal then would not be as bad.

Eh bro, you worked in an oil company, you should know better than me la!

But that's what I'm saying - if you're just a normal driver driving a normal car would it make any difference?

Or even in the case of a turbo car - say I opt for semi but OCI it every 2k km... how is that compared to a FS and OCI it every 7k km? Not track use or anything excessive. Just daily driving.

 

[sweelt]

Haha I feel like its very heavy eh, why you using 60. What engine your perdana using

already mention Evo3 engine.

 

[eques]

already mention Evo3 engine.

4g63 ? Theres many variant for malaysia style of evo ma..
Some people even consider 4g13 or 4g15 to be a "evo" engine. People tend to confuse between lancer and an evolution

 

[sweelt]

4g63 ? Theres many variant for malaysia style of evo ma..
Some people even consider 4g13 or 4g15 to be a "evo" engine. People tend to confuse between lancer and an evolution

4g63 of course in his perdana.

 

[marsha1l_v6]

Haha I feel like its very heavy eh, why you using 60. What engine your perdana using

4g63t evo3, doesnt feel heavy,liqui moly race tech gt1 10w-60, been using for 3 cycle already. not disappointing and no missing oil after hard drive. Now saw petronas race oil 10w-60 full syn..not sure the price but keen to try, better if less than current EO..hahaha

 

[vr2turbo]

4g63 ? Theres many variant for malaysia style of evo ma..
Some people even consider 4g13 or 4g15 to be a "evo" engine. People tend to confuse between lancer and an evolution

Those people talking nonsense loh. VR4 plus Evo 1 to 9 are the evo engine 4G63T. Only Evo X have 4B11T

 

[eques]

Those people talking nonsense loh. VR4 plus Evo 1 to 9 are the evo engine 4G63T. Only Evo X have 4B11T

Ya La, but didn't want to be rude haha. Malaysian tend to think if it's Mitsubishi or mivec it's who engine. Didn't know that guy knows his stuff or not. Some people even thinks dohc means evo while shoc is the lancer version

 

[Izso]

4g63t evo3, doesnt feel heavy,liqui moly race tech gt1 10w-60, been using for 3 cycle already. not disappointing and no missing oil after hard drive. Now saw petronas race oil 10w-60 full syn..not sure the price but keen to try, better if less than current EO..hahaha

Very little brands out there is more expensive than Liqui Moly Try Amsoil signature series bro. Good shit.

 

[marsha1l_v6]

Very little brands out there is more expensive than Liqui Moly Try Amsoil signature series bro. Good shit.

will try after to OCI cycle, next cycle will give me free OCI for the following cycle..

they sell it in quart..may need 5 quart..if each cost rm8x (refering to signature series @ lazada before discount) ..cost well over than current EO..hahaha pokai pokai..

 

[6UE5t]

Very little brands out there is more expensive than Liqui Moly Try Amsoil signature series bro. Good shit.

I'd try Amsoil over Liqui Moly for that kind of price.

 

[ixeo]

Just go buy cheap synthetic better, if want cheap and use for proton car I usually buy from this facebook page " v fier oil" just google. They are based on Batu caves and if not mistaken I bought semi for about rm120 including oil filter.

Why would you go all the way there to buy semi oil for RM120 with oil filter? P1/P2 oil filters are around RM15.. means the oil is RM105? Semi... depending on the quality, can run 5k km to 10k km.

M1 @ RM160 for 4L, + 1x Filter for RM15, can go 15k km EASY.

Assuming 30k km mileage, you would have changed your semi 3 times. Or with M1, changed twice. Total cost over 30k km =

Mobil 1 4L x 2 = RM320, 2x filter = RM30, total RM350
Your RM120 package x 3 = RM360

Mobil 1 is definitely good... your v fier oil.. i dunno. Why bother when M1 works out to be cheaper?

Pennzoil belongs to Shell, probably base oil is shell, then shell oil also not good....lol

Mine is 5K or 6 months OCI...

You can't say Shell Oil not good. While it is still Group III based stocks which is not 100% synthetic. Shell uses their proprietary XHVI process. Can read the technical details here:

https://books.google.com.my/books?i...UVB6QQ6AEIUDAG#v=onepage&q=shell xhvi&f=false

Personally I rank Shell Helix Ultra above the normal Group III synthetics, but below 100% Group IV PAO or 100% Group V esters. Would I use it? Yup, sure did.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2014/11/10/bmw-replaces-castrol-shell-recommended-oil-supplier/

I personally think the Castrol european synthetics are way above shell, but sadly, manufacturers like BMW ditched Castrol for Shell's cheaper EOs. Guess BMW is gonna make more money from the customers. Sell the Shell Oils for the same price as Castrol, but in actual fact it is using a cheaper base stock.

I'd try Amsoil over Liqui Moly for that kind of price.

Amsoil oils are GOOD.

 

[6UE5t]

Why would you go all the way there to buy semi oil for RM120 with oil filter? P1/P2 oil filters are around RM15.. means the oil is RM105? Semi... depending on the quality, can run 5k km to 10k km.

M1 @ RM160 for 4L, + 1x Filter for RM15, can go 15k km EASY.

Assuming 30k km mileage, you would have changed your semi 3 times. Or with M1, changed twice. Total cost over 30k km =

Mobil 1 4L x 2 = RM320, 2x filter = RM30, total RM350
Your RM120 package x 3 = RM360

Mobil 1 is definitely good... your v fier oil.. i dunno. Why bother when M1 works out to be cheaper?
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Amsoil oils are GOOD.

Yup agree with the above, using good FS oil actually can be cheaper than using semi. If semi oil, should get below rm90 or at least under rm100 then ok.

Amsoil not widely available though.

 

[vr2turbo]

I personally think the Castrol european synthetics are way above shell, but sadly, manufacturers like BMW ditched Castrol for Shell's cheaper EOs. Guess BMW is gonna make more money from the customers. Sell the Shell Oils for the same price as Castrol, but in actual fact it is using a cheaper base stock.

Do you think Castrol will be using BP base oil since they are under BP....

 

[ixeo]

Do you think Castrol will be using BP base oil since they are under BP....

Don't know, never bothered. But doesn't really matter because other than Shell, all other oil blenders hydrocrack their Group III base stocks and call it "synthetic".

 

[vr2turbo]

Don't know, never bothered. But doesn't really matter because other than Shell, all other oil blenders hydrocrack their Group III base stocks and call it "synthetic".

Yup, all the major oil company does that.......lol