Hydrogen Fuel Saver - This should really works

[cybtech]

dun ram la..... hehe
takda pick-up.....
hey... after all we also must jimat air ma.... nanti bill air naik....

 

[JINEIL2EN]

yalor... human can survive without petrol, but sure goto hell if no water...

 

[mag9556]

yalor... human can survive without petrol, but sure goto hell if no water...

But today if u want to survive without petrol thats too hard man..
dun forget even we just using bicycle also the electricity at house where we enjoy those cool aircond also using oil man...

 

[cybtech]

But today if u want to survive without petrol thats too hard man..
dun forget even we just using bicycle also the electricity at house where we enjoy those cool aircond also using oil man...

use kipas la.... also cool

 

[dixonleong]

http://www.hydrogenfuelsaver.com.my/products.asp

I asked before , the smallest version is arnd RM1.6k

I am sourcing for HHO kit for car, of course design and exterior wont be so nice, but still workable , but the price is around 30 -35% of that only

Anyone interested, can let me know, will be bringing in to M'sia market in a another month or 2

 

[howiechoo]

actually we are currently working on the implementation of water and methanol injection for ur car to kick it's boost it's power with lesser pollutions and more econimic in fuel consumptions. but it's all in progress. cant reveal much.. it will release to market in a short time.

 

[BlackSamurai]

howie, waiting for your update.

 

[csl]

Put away the danger of explosion and other real technical thing, I'm not sure how the unit can fit into the engine bay, as most car engine bay are packed. And at the same time, from their product pics, I think they are DIY for the unit and sell the unit for us to DIY again :P :D

 

[donCityZ]

1.6K?????????

wtf.

so expensip woi.

 

[melvinleechenglee]

My Car Wira 1.3GL is running Both NGV and OxyHydro Generator (Water Fuel System)!
I get to save approx 15-20% even with NGV on the freeway.
170km now 200km on freeway. Thats just a test but its been positive so far. City Driving however its still difficult to see the savings as its like 5-10% the most. However switching to petrol I save 20% on city driving havent tried state driving though.
Been using NGV for 2 years I previously had alot of problems like my engine dies halfway on the road or explosion in the engine (misfire) due to NGV long use. Changed my spark plug like twice. Then came when my car couldn't eat petrol. Thus I wasn't able to climb the 45 degree slope even though i switch to petrol. Changed my clutch to fix the problem but it wasn't. Engine dies every morning while I drive halfway. Considered it as a norm as NGV driver.
But after fixing the water system, I have no more of the problems I faced for 1 and a half year. My power of my NGV increased after fixing the water system Oxy Hydro Generator. I even climbed slope 45degree with 4 passengers, full petrol tank and a NGV tank in my car and by god I got the car climbing even with NGV and water (I didnt switch to petrol to climb!) Well thats just the feedback of what I've experience and tested.Its like driving on petrol but not as powerfula s pettrol if you know what i mean
Check it here below the link!
http://water4gasinstaller.com/index.php/Download-document/40-PROTON-WIRA-NGV.html

why the difference with your product OxyHydro Generator compared to Dr.
Halim Hydrofuel system?

Pretty simple, our unit is made of pure steel and can withstand extreme
hit which there for has a longer lifespan of up to 8 years (as declared by
the manufacturer)
The unit itself is also being used in diesel engines and cars which are
higher cc of 2.0 and above as well.
So no worries of it melting in your car as it is not made of plastic.
Steel itself is expensive and heavy. The cost of delivery itself from
Australia has incurred cost. Well additional RM200 is worth the bargain.
The best part! You dun have to have additional 5 litre tank behind your
boot. Infact the tank is the HFS70 unit.
Enuff said..:)


They have a water tank of 5 litres
Ours done as the unit itself has a tank HFS70

These are the main differences but of course we have to wait for more
details about their product as I still couldnt access any further
information on their web as it is still under construction

Other thing is people claim using HHO create water at exhaust pipe which
make it rust, is that true?Any risk of oxidize/rusting in the internal
combustion system?inner
block?pistons?bearings?exhaust system?
The water vapor is very hot inside the engine, and cleans but does not
cause rust to form since the temperature is very high and there's enough
lubrication by the gasoline. The water vapor and hydrogen clean the carbon
deposits off the valves, passages, pistons, rings, etc, and that's why the
engine becomes smoother.

It is cooler in the converter and back pipe, but it's not much different
than driving in the rain or any humid area/weather.

In the bottom line this technology has the overall effect, in the long
run, of LESS maintenance, FEWER breakdowns, not more. Most people are
interested in saving right now at the gas pump, and that's OK, however the
benefits of less pollution and less maintenance are there too.


Here are the things you as a consumer should consider
1) Car Warranty
Still a gray area for all the devices you are considering as JPJ, Puspakom
is still under progress on approval but eventually it will.
Check with the are dealers as well but as far as I know they are also
waiting for approval.
2) Unit Durability
The Unit HFS70 is made of pure steel can withstand heat even in high cc
capacity cars including diesel has a lifespan of 8 years (as admited by
the
Manufacturer)
Plastic even high durabilty ones will eventually melt after years of use
Handmade ones though cheap uses steel coils which will eventually corrode
and rust in use. The unit I have uses steel plate which will not corrode.
3) Unit Warranty
HFS70 is 2 years warranty 1 to 1 exchange if unit is in anyway defect.
The Eletronic EFIE however is 1 month as I purchased in the US in bulk.
The Electronics however is not a machinery and therefore would last for
years of use.
4) Fuel Injection Car
Your Car requires HFS70 and EFIE.
http://water4gasinstaller.com/index.php/Large-Passenger-Vehicle.html
http://water4gasinstaller.com/index.php/Fuel-Management-Enhancer.html
5) After Sales Service
http://water4gasinstaller.com/index.php/Periodic-Maintenance.html
6) Maintenance Cost
RM20 every six months. Refills of RO or Distill water when the water
reaches to a low level.
7)Longetivity of Car
Our unit does not affect your car longevity. But infact prolongs it.
However, if you purchase units from another dealer, be aware
- Plastic units melt in high heat
- The solution used as electrolytes crystallizes in the engine if they are
using baking soda.
8) Guaranted Savings
I will be honest and not guarantee savings. However
Average users achieves 20%-30% on normal driving.
15% on slow traffic and jams
35% and above on freeway
Please check with the dealers and ask them to be honest with you when they
guarantee you 50% savings.
9) Number of types of cars installed
We have so far more than 42 types of cars installed
http://water4gasinstaller.com/index.php/Types-of-Cars-Installed/View-category.html
10) Brochures
Check it here
http://water4gasinstaller.com/index.php/Documents/View-category.html
11) Research and ROI Calculation
Check it out here
http://water4gasinstaller.com/index.php/Research-/View-category.html
12) Understand the Technology and its Mechanics
Google "HHO Generator" and find out more.
13) Installation period
2 Days. HFS only takes few hours.
EFIE may take a day, MAP and O2 Sensors requires to be found. Wiring must
be done by a professional wiring man would take a day.
Give me two days the most.
14) Product Price
http://water4gasinstaller.com/index.php/Product-Price.html

Thanks!
Melvin Lee

 

[JINEIL2EN]

if using the HHO system, pump rm30 petrol, hows the mileage/FC for city driving & Highway....??? thanks

 

[terrythe]

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=781837&hl=
i c this guy sell HHO very cheap n save 2.2liter / 100km mean 5sen per km.........

wat ur comment about this?????

 

[JINEIL2EN]

can save so much, then can sell to BMW edy...

 

[donCityZ]

i heard from many ppl that tested the HHO system is that it does not work unless u tweak the a/f ratio by some device. and i heard that long term usage will not be save for your car engine. the temperature of Hydrogen burn is super high.. even can be used to welding metals. so go figure. im abandoning this project for good. those that used it maybe can gain mileage at initial stage, but after few years dono what will happen to ur engine. if u want to instal, do it at ur own risk. me, im just gonna stick with low cc cars and maintain it as good as possible.

 

[JINEIL2EN]

i just envy la, those ppls says can save 25%-50% of fuel..... too bad, i'm too poor to get a 1.6k for those things...

 

[DJgErM]

i heard from many ppl that tested the HHO system is that it does not work unless u tweak the a/f ratio by some device. and i heard that long term usage will not be save for your car engine. the temperature of Hydrogen burn is super high.. even can be used to welding metals. so go figure. im abandoning this project for good. those that used it maybe can gain mileage at initial stage, but after few years dono what will happen to ur engine. if u want to instal, do it at ur own risk. me, im just gonna stick with low cc cars and maintain it as good as possible.

don bro..

yea i do feel that Gas runs much hotter than gasoline..but i am jsut curious if we apply EFIE controller + AFC controllers like SAFC to control..will it be better?worth trying?

 

[terrythe]

no need expensive 1....do u c my product's?we r sold very cheap oni....u can visit to
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=781837&hl=
if u need more information aso can contact the person...

 

[JINEIL2EN]

don bro..

yea i do feel that Gas runs much hotter than gasoline..but i am jsut curious if we apply EFIE controller + AFC controllers like SAFC to control..will it be better?worth trying?

wah, then must spare atleast rm3k liao.... hehehehe.....

 

[abe81]

I think this electrolysis hydrogen process is a great idea to learn.

I have seen another kind of research by Dr John Kanzius which is an accidental finding of burning salt water, that is quite potential for fuel savings but it didn't achieve the efficiency ratio. (means need more energy to burn salt water). http://nick2.wordpress.com/2007/06/01/saltwater-into-fire/

So may be I just wait and see some alternatives, like electric hybrid plug in or so-called PHEV to arrive.

 

[drexchan]

I spoke their Aussie-trained engineer Anthony today. Hasn't got a chance to check on the real product. Brouchure looks good.