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<blockquote data-quote="HanJackaL" data-source="post: 1375192" data-attributes="member: 7333"><p>Hi,</p><p>I drove a 328I,325I,318I(friend's..underpowered like mad),X5,X3,Z4 and many generations of 7 series before because my dad use to buy BMWS since 1980s.But we stopped buying BMWS because we found that it is not value for money.3 series always have error message on computer saying "check coolant level" or something,and the engine is not very reliable,drinks fuel like mad.X5 doors is WAY too heavy and very uncomfortable to open on a slope or when carrying stuff.Z4 is too tight and narrow inside and very uncomfortable for everyday driving,too uncomfortable and expensive for a average perfomance car. (It was the 3.5 L Z4 convertible btw)</p><p></p><p>BMW has style and comfort..no doubt about that.Thats why BMW owners should never compare their car performance wise.Because BMWS are MORE for style and comfort than raw performance.Example : Someone who wants a high performance car for everyday driving with style and decent comfort,they would get the BMW M5.If someone who wants a car for only weekend track driving,they would get a Ferrari. Get what i mean?</p><p></p><p>And to all those people who think a higher CC car will outperform a lower CC car in high end,i beg to differ.Its not always the CC that matters,its also the engine design,gearbox,car weight..etc.</p><p></p><p>Personal experience : I had my dad drive the Z4 and i drove a souped up Honda Civic 1997 converted to B18C(1.8).We were on highway going to PD.From the PD toll,First and second gear,BMW Z4 was around side by side with the Honda,after third,4th and 5th gear the Z4 was slowly left behind.Gear ratio and gear box plays a very big difference...the Honda reached 200+ KMH way faster than the Z4 due to the close ratio gear box.And that is a Z4!What more if we are talking about the 3 Series Sedans ?</p><p></p><p>So how can you guys be so sure the 328I will overtake the Audi A4T at high end?Maybe the Audi engine was also designed to be smooth and torquey at high end driving?I dont know about Audis,but just saying there is a possibility.</p><p></p><p>What i dont understand is,why do BMW 3 series sedan drivers care about performance?If want to be faster than other cars,why not buy a performance car?If not,who cares if Audi,Mercedes C class or whatever "similar" class cars are faster ?If want to compare speed,why not compare with Japanese cars with half your displacement but faster ?Because i dont see the point in comparing speed with only a certain "class" of cars because 3 series is not about comparing speed anyway.</p><p></p><p>Sorry if i insulted anyone..didnt mean to.Just confused about the reason people compare speed of their "comfort" car to other cars.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HanJackaL, post: 1375192, member: 7333"] Hi, I drove a 328I,325I,318I(friend's..underpowered like mad),X5,X3,Z4 and many generations of 7 series before because my dad use to buy BMWS since 1980s.But we stopped buying BMWS because we found that it is not value for money.3 series always have error message on computer saying "check coolant level" or something,and the engine is not very reliable,drinks fuel like mad.X5 doors is WAY too heavy and very uncomfortable to open on a slope or when carrying stuff.Z4 is too tight and narrow inside and very uncomfortable for everyday driving,too uncomfortable and expensive for a average perfomance car. (It was the 3.5 L Z4 convertible btw) BMW has style and comfort..no doubt about that.Thats why BMW owners should never compare their car performance wise.Because BMWS are MORE for style and comfort than raw performance.Example : Someone who wants a high performance car for everyday driving with style and decent comfort,they would get the BMW M5.If someone who wants a car for only weekend track driving,they would get a Ferrari. Get what i mean? And to all those people who think a higher CC car will outperform a lower CC car in high end,i beg to differ.Its not always the CC that matters,its also the engine design,gearbox,car weight..etc. Personal experience : I had my dad drive the Z4 and i drove a souped up Honda Civic 1997 converted to B18C(1.8).We were on highway going to PD.From the PD toll,First and second gear,BMW Z4 was around side by side with the Honda,after third,4th and 5th gear the Z4 was slowly left behind.Gear ratio and gear box plays a very big difference...the Honda reached 200+ KMH way faster than the Z4 due to the close ratio gear box.And that is a Z4!What more if we are talking about the 3 Series Sedans ? So how can you guys be so sure the 328I will overtake the Audi A4T at high end?Maybe the Audi engine was also designed to be smooth and torquey at high end driving?I dont know about Audis,but just saying there is a possibility. What i dont understand is,why do BMW 3 series sedan drivers care about performance?If want to be faster than other cars,why not buy a performance car?If not,who cares if Audi,Mercedes C class or whatever "similar" class cars are faster ?If want to compare speed,why not compare with Japanese cars with half your displacement but faster ?Because i dont see the point in comparing speed with only a certain "class" of cars because 3 series is not about comparing speed anyway. Sorry if i insulted anyone..didnt mean to.Just confused about the reason people compare speed of their "comfort" car to other cars. [/QUOTE]
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