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<blockquote data-quote="jugbugz" data-source="post: 1383552" data-attributes="member: 30892"><p>Torque and Horsepower is different.</p><p></p><p>Torque is the amount of pulling power and horsepower is top speed. You have got this perception in the wrong way. Torque is also affected by weight.</p><p></p><p>Yes when the peak torque is hit, it will drop slowly till the redline. Same with Horsepower. But peak horsepower is normally gained near redline anyway. The torque curve is different according to how the engine is setup. e.g N/A, turbo, turbo diesel or supercharged system. You will understand more about it when you've seen a dyno graph of those types of engines. </p><p></p><p>Have you ever sit in a car when you punt the accelerator then you get pushed into the seat? That feeling is the cause from torque not hp. A car that can go up to 280kmph means its got a lot of hp. So for everyday driving, you will have more fun with a car that has a lot of torque. </p><p></p><p>But if you got a car thats got a lot of torque and hp then you have 1 brutal accelerating car in all gears even at high speed.</p><p></p><p>Another example is that when you are going up a steep hill, this is where torque really shines and hp doesn't mean much. A car with more torque would still maintain its accelaration where as the car with less torque would be more affected considering that both cars have the same weight that is.</p><p></p><p>Actually there was a comparison with the E46 M3 and the 330 Turbo diesel.</p><p>On paper 0-100 the M3 won. But the comparison from 80-120 in 4th gear the 330td won by a massive 2 secs. This was becasue of the 500nm torque compared to the 365nm of the M3. So really you can't compare on the paper where real life driving conditions needs to be considered. Imagine the M3 and the 330td cruising at about 60kms side by side. Then both of them punt the throttle at the same time. The 330td would have jumped in front by half a cars length.</p><p></p><p>My point is that torque is important.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jugbugz, post: 1383552, member: 30892"] Torque and Horsepower is different. Torque is the amount of pulling power and horsepower is top speed. You have got this perception in the wrong way. Torque is also affected by weight. Yes when the peak torque is hit, it will drop slowly till the redline. Same with Horsepower. But peak horsepower is normally gained near redline anyway. The torque curve is different according to how the engine is setup. e.g N/A, turbo, turbo diesel or supercharged system. You will understand more about it when you've seen a dyno graph of those types of engines. Have you ever sit in a car when you punt the accelerator then you get pushed into the seat? That feeling is the cause from torque not hp. A car that can go up to 280kmph means its got a lot of hp. So for everyday driving, you will have more fun with a car that has a lot of torque. But if you got a car thats got a lot of torque and hp then you have 1 brutal accelerating car in all gears even at high speed. Another example is that when you are going up a steep hill, this is where torque really shines and hp doesn't mean much. A car with more torque would still maintain its accelaration where as the car with less torque would be more affected considering that both cars have the same weight that is. Actually there was a comparison with the E46 M3 and the 330 Turbo diesel. On paper 0-100 the M3 won. But the comparison from 80-120 in 4th gear the 330td won by a massive 2 secs. This was becasue of the 500nm torque compared to the 365nm of the M3. So really you can't compare on the paper where real life driving conditions needs to be considered. Imagine the M3 and the 330td cruising at about 60kms side by side. Then both of them punt the throttle at the same time. The 330td would have jumped in front by half a cars length. My point is that torque is important. [/QUOTE]
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