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<blockquote data-quote="jugbugz" data-source="post: 1384020" data-attributes="member: 30892"><p>Hanjackel...</p><p></p><p>Power figures and weight don't tell everything you know... If it was that simple then why don't all cars with the same hp and torque feel the same? It's all about the characteristics of a car. And when I say that I mean everything. Gearbox, gear ratio, peak torque, peak hp, N/A, turbo, supercharger, layout, FR,RR,MR,FF, weight distribution form front and rear, etc everything. </p><p>If you look at a dyno graph of both cars, you will be able to understand the strengths and weaknesses of a car. Remember S2000 is N/A Vtec and S15 is turbo. The S2000 has 9000rpm where as the S15 has it around 7500rpm. At each hundred rpm's, power and torque figures state on the dyno, there you will find a difference between the 2 and how the power rises. Each gear ratio from 1st, 2nd,3rd onwards have different ratios. 0-100 is just a standard measurement of potential. You not going to do 0-100 everywhere you drive is it?</p><p>Both cars will feel different when holding the 2 gear @ 3000rpm with both cars and punting the pedal to the redline. The results are your feeling. At that point with the S15 you will feel the turbo and torque building very quickly and early then bang next gear. With the S2000, it really likes to rev and revs harder than the S15. Both stock that is. We all know what teh Vtec rush is like and especially with the 9000rpm ceiling, throwing it into the next gear will just give you that continuous hard reving Vtec characteristic. </p><p>Cars are complicated, so much engineering and planing. That's what makes a S2000 like no other and same as the S15. Otherwise if it was that simple then every car manufacturer would be able to make car's like ferrari's, porsches etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jugbugz, post: 1384020, member: 30892"] Hanjackel... Power figures and weight don't tell everything you know... If it was that simple then why don't all cars with the same hp and torque feel the same? It's all about the characteristics of a car. And when I say that I mean everything. Gearbox, gear ratio, peak torque, peak hp, N/A, turbo, supercharger, layout, FR,RR,MR,FF, weight distribution form front and rear, etc everything. If you look at a dyno graph of both cars, you will be able to understand the strengths and weaknesses of a car. Remember S2000 is N/A Vtec and S15 is turbo. The S2000 has 9000rpm where as the S15 has it around 7500rpm. At each hundred rpm's, power and torque figures state on the dyno, there you will find a difference between the 2 and how the power rises. Each gear ratio from 1st, 2nd,3rd onwards have different ratios. 0-100 is just a standard measurement of potential. You not going to do 0-100 everywhere you drive is it? Both cars will feel different when holding the 2 gear @ 3000rpm with both cars and punting the pedal to the redline. The results are your feeling. At that point with the S15 you will feel the turbo and torque building very quickly and early then bang next gear. With the S2000, it really likes to rev and revs harder than the S15. Both stock that is. We all know what teh Vtec rush is like and especially with the 9000rpm ceiling, throwing it into the next gear will just give you that continuous hard reving Vtec characteristic. Cars are complicated, so much engineering and planing. That's what makes a S2000 like no other and same as the S15. Otherwise if it was that simple then every car manufacturer would be able to make car's like ferrari's, porsches etc. [/QUOTE]
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