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<blockquote data-quote="jugbugz" data-source="post: 1385528" data-attributes="member: 30892"><p>The honda's vtec engine revs <strong>harder and faster </strong>than the S15, and piles on the power much quicker to make up for the torque. Gear ratio makes a big difference. I'm sure if the S2000's gear ratio was bad it would lose a sec off it's 0-100 time. </p><p></p><p>As for top speed. Hp does determine the Max hp and half of it has got to do with the gear ratio. </p><p></p><p>If your comparing a car with 200hp and 10,000nm and a 500hp with 1,000nm then obviously the 500hp car would win because it has 500 horses to utilize all of the torque efficiently, looks like 500 horses with big powerful legs. :D 200hp and 10,000nm sounds like a big turbo diesel crane which lifts concrete, looks like 200 over sized horses on steriods with gigantic powerful legs that won't get anywhere. There has to be a good balance between torque and hp. N/A engines have the ability to rev <strong>higher, harder and faster </strong>naturally to make more hp but they aint torquey. They have to be worked hard all the time. Where as supercharged or turbo is like an artificial version of N/A which will have more torque and power in areas the N/A engine don't. </p><p></p><p>As for your last question, torque doesn't make hp. rpm makes hp. The e46 M3 has maximum torque of 365@4900rpm and max hp of 343hp@7900rpm. You can still rev it up to 8300rpm. It will deminish from 7900rpm cause it has run out of breath and can't keep up with the revolutions of the engine. Even if the peak torque is at 4900rpm, it is still holding it or dropping slowly till the redline. This can be seen on a dyno sheet to find out how much torque is made at xx amount of rpm. <span style="color: Blue"><strong>Check out my dyno sheet</strong></span> </p><p></p><p>Like I said, torque will really shine when you are accelerating uphill. There you will find the S15 will just pull away easily from the S2000. Weight affects hp drastically, but with torque this can be overcome and still maintain its acceleration. </p><p></p><p>The S2000's strength is on track and downhill, but racing uphill, it has some weaknesses. Then again this is made up by it's handling. :)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jugbugz, post: 1385528, member: 30892"] The honda's vtec engine revs [B]harder and faster [/B]than the S15, and piles on the power much quicker to make up for the torque. Gear ratio makes a big difference. I'm sure if the S2000's gear ratio was bad it would lose a sec off it's 0-100 time. As for top speed. Hp does determine the Max hp and half of it has got to do with the gear ratio. If your comparing a car with 200hp and 10,000nm and a 500hp with 1,000nm then obviously the 500hp car would win because it has 500 horses to utilize all of the torque efficiently, looks like 500 horses with big powerful legs. :D 200hp and 10,000nm sounds like a big turbo diesel crane which lifts concrete, looks like 200 over sized horses on steriods with gigantic powerful legs that won't get anywhere. There has to be a good balance between torque and hp. N/A engines have the ability to rev [B]higher, harder and faster [/B]naturally to make more hp but they aint torquey. They have to be worked hard all the time. Where as supercharged or turbo is like an artificial version of N/A which will have more torque and power in areas the N/A engine don't. As for your last question, torque doesn't make hp. rpm makes hp. The e46 M3 has maximum torque of 365@4900rpm and max hp of 343hp@7900rpm. You can still rev it up to 8300rpm. It will deminish from 7900rpm cause it has run out of breath and can't keep up with the revolutions of the engine. Even if the peak torque is at 4900rpm, it is still holding it or dropping slowly till the redline. This can be seen on a dyno sheet to find out how much torque is made at xx amount of rpm. [COLOR="Blue"][B]Check out my dyno sheet[/B][/COLOR] Like I said, torque will really shine when you are accelerating uphill. There you will find the S15 will just pull away easily from the S2000. Weight affects hp drastically, but with torque this can be overcome and still maintain its acceleration. The S2000's strength is on track and downhill, but racing uphill, it has some weaknesses. Then again this is made up by it's handling. :) [/QUOTE]
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