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Message: <blockquote data-quote="n0th1n" data-source="post: 3885242" data-attributes="member: 9249">ha, baru mau reply, sudah ada orang reply.yes, with stock engine internals as what the topic started mentioned, there will be maximum hp or torque number that can be achieved. but with modification and mechanical upgrades, the maximum number should be higher.. as i said earlier, original ecu will keep some % and potential for durability of the whole engine. they keyword is tuning proper. unproper tuning, u buy what haltek, motek, freedom ka, all cannot unleash the hidden power being kept by original ecu.and, we toyota is more keen to look at torque curve/numbers. if viteks, they measure with hp. why choose toyota if want hp? go for turbo la. or join viteks hehehhehehehhe.. will produce continous debates after this <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":biggrin:" title="Biggrin    :biggrin:" data-shortname=":biggrin:" />this is another example: by bro trd.ae92 (even if there is typo error here, thats what i meant)SC14 + 4AGZE (stock) + Oversize Pulley + Haltec E6X = 175 WHPSC14 + 4AGZE (Aftermarket Piston 81.5mm + BC Rod + 272 high cam in ex ) + Oversize Pulley + Stock ECU = 175 WHPsee what a haltech can do? vs investing pistons + conrods + cams..10whp from an NA engine is big. 13-15hp at flywheel. u buy a big plot of land, but built small house.. later2 can renovate to big house..u buy a small plot of land, built maximum, then cannot renovate, have to move to another plot of land.its about maximizing potential. IF small budget la of course. ahhahahahhahahhaanswering topic starter, i never tried that adaptronic nor microtech. but, tried a friend with stock engine and a microtech, the torque is way better at low rev, didnt have chance to try on high rev.</blockquote>

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