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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shiroitenshi" data-source="post: 1063335100" data-attributes="member: 27518">igntion retard required la.. that one definitely.. I said 'don't need to retard much, not no retard required' but if retune, actually don't lose that much. Got B18C here making 175hp with RON95 already. not as high as the original 180+, but doesn't run like a retarded D15 :PI tuned it, then wondering why the torque cannot increase and when i increase the ignition, just started knocking.. then ask the owner, he said he fill up RON95.. lol... Mau jimat... so buat je la. But had to cheat a bit to get power.. have to run a bit richer and not reduce advance so much.. so in the end, the fuel consumed might be more than RON97 anyway (500ms added injector duration not exactly a lot of fuel if you use the litre unit).. so exactly how much, I dunno.. that one only owner can track.if you just retard, no knocking, but also lose a lot of power.</blockquote>

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