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Message: <blockquote data-quote="alvin24" data-source="post: 1376239" data-attributes="member: 63">normality78,You not comparing the prices properly also... =Þ Emanage 1.6k is for BRAND NEW UNIT inclusive of fueling and ignition harness, installation and tuning. SAFC2 you can ONLY tune fueling, and a brand new unit including installation and tuning would add up to about 1.2k. (emanage without ignition harness is 1.4k including installation and tuning... if u buy the module alone is 1150 brand new).S-ITC brand new if not mistaken can't get anymore... 2nd hand unit goes around 700 bucks. So u ownself add up the cost lah... want your turbo kit to work properly, you have to have a ignition timing controller device... to retard the timing at high end.Emanage is cheaper than SAFC+ITC.When N1 has 2nd hand emanage units for sale, its usually going for 1k including installation and tuning. Wouldn't that be better than spending 800 bucks on a 2nd hand SAFC ?!?n_chun21,You aren't comparing 2 same engines also. so of course output will be different lah.Say you're comparing Mitsubishi 4G93 n/a and 4G93 turbo... then yeah, if u turbo kit the n/a... u'd have a much more responsive ride... but then the n/a can only boost up to 0.5 bar safely... the 4G93 turbo stock runs around 0.7 bar... so from there u already lose. =Þ And if u wanna up boost on the 4G93 n/a... u'd have to lower its compression... which by then you wouldn't be much different from the 4G93 turbo in terms of response... but in terms of power, the 4G93 turbo has stronger internals which would therefore allow higher boost than the 4G93 n/a... unless u change its internals into the 4G93 turbo internals... which by then, u're pretty much turning your 4G93 n/a into a 4G93 turbo... which if u think of it, u're probably much better off just transplanting a 4G93 turbo in the first place. =Þ</blockquote>

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