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<blockquote data-quote="Izso" data-source="post: 1064609982" data-attributes="member: 2429"><p>Like what Ken and Vr2 said - get it from a reputable spare parts shop. Or go to one that you have a relationship with. I go to a spare parts shop that know me by name, they give me the best prices and tell me which are ori and which are fake. They don't sell fake at ori prices, usually always ask customers which ones they want. It's their customers like the workshops that are unscrupulous, buy fake sell ori prices.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Erm. Hate to be a stickler but brake hoses doesn't reduce brake fade, nor does 5.1 brake fluid. Brake hoses just firms pedal feel since the original hoses are made of rubber and over time rubber softens and wears out causing it to expand under pressure. Expanding rubber means more brake pedal pressure to deliver the brake oil to the calipers. Steel braided hoses prevent that expansion that results in a firm brake pedal feel all the time. Only thing is one needs to keep these hoses clean otherwise risk getting dirt lodged in between the braiding which will cause leaking over time. The Superstreet hoses are wrapped so the chances of it getting dirt is super slim, which is the only reason why I recommend this brand over others. I've used Improve braided hoses, BF Goodridge and both work well. Main thing is keeping it clean.</p><p></p><p>DOT5.1 fluid is backward compatible with DOT4 and DOT3 oils. DOT5 is silicon based and isn't compatible with the lot. The major difference between these oils is the boiling point of the oil. DOT5.1 has the highest boiling point. The benefit of having a higher boiling point is so the oil doesn't evaporate and introduce air pockets in the brake lines which result in spongy brake feel. How does it evaporate? Heavy braking introduces heat and heat eventually will boil the oil in the brake line. I used to use DOT3 in my Wira but even with steel braided hoses it would still be spongy after an aggressive downhill drive. Changing to DOT5.1 resolved that. </p><p></p><p>The only way to really reduce brake fade is to use higher temperature rated brake pads and ventilated + cross drilled + slotted rotors. Brake fade is caused by gases built up between the brake pad and the rotor when under extreme heat. The slots and holes in your rotor help dissipate those gases and some high temp pads don't "release" gases until you hit their max temperature. </p><p></p><p>End of rant.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Izso, post: 1064609982, member: 2429"] Like what Ken and Vr2 said - get it from a reputable spare parts shop. Or go to one that you have a relationship with. I go to a spare parts shop that know me by name, they give me the best prices and tell me which are ori and which are fake. They don't sell fake at ori prices, usually always ask customers which ones they want. It's their customers like the workshops that are unscrupulous, buy fake sell ori prices. Erm. Hate to be a stickler but brake hoses doesn't reduce brake fade, nor does 5.1 brake fluid. Brake hoses just firms pedal feel since the original hoses are made of rubber and over time rubber softens and wears out causing it to expand under pressure. Expanding rubber means more brake pedal pressure to deliver the brake oil to the calipers. Steel braided hoses prevent that expansion that results in a firm brake pedal feel all the time. Only thing is one needs to keep these hoses clean otherwise risk getting dirt lodged in between the braiding which will cause leaking over time. The Superstreet hoses are wrapped so the chances of it getting dirt is super slim, which is the only reason why I recommend this brand over others. I've used Improve braided hoses, BF Goodridge and both work well. Main thing is keeping it clean. DOT5.1 fluid is backward compatible with DOT4 and DOT3 oils. DOT5 is silicon based and isn't compatible with the lot. The major difference between these oils is the boiling point of the oil. DOT5.1 has the highest boiling point. The benefit of having a higher boiling point is so the oil doesn't evaporate and introduce air pockets in the brake lines which result in spongy brake feel. How does it evaporate? Heavy braking introduces heat and heat eventually will boil the oil in the brake line. I used to use DOT3 in my Wira but even with steel braided hoses it would still be spongy after an aggressive downhill drive. Changing to DOT5.1 resolved that. The only way to really reduce brake fade is to use higher temperature rated brake pads and ventilated + cross drilled + slotted rotors. Brake fade is caused by gases built up between the brake pad and the rotor when under extreme heat. The slots and holes in your rotor help dissipate those gases and some high temp pads don't "release" gases until you hit their max temperature. End of rant. [/QUOTE]
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