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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Supra_Fanatics" data-source="post: 1064427018" data-attributes="member: 66184">Before I reply to a few posts. I would like to say that, Designers may be the cause and usually may not be the cause for ugly designs. Seriously designers most of the time, me as a designer as well but not car designer are not able to come up with a design base on what we deem as Perfect/Excellent, Nice and the most suitable design for something most of the time.Most of the time we are requested to come up with a design 1st. Then, we would send out our designs for approval, be it Art Director or the top management people like Manager, Vice Presidents and etcs. Those big top Arses at the top for their approval. Time and time again, we are usually force to follow orders and come up with a design that seems ugly to us but end up getting approved by the Top Managements. We can only give them our professional advice but we can't do anything if our advices were not taken. So, in short, designers are not totally the one to blame, wanna blame, blame the top managements. Even if u bring in the Lotus designers or the designers from Ferraris or anything, the final decision still in the hands of the top managements. So, wanna sack some people? sack the one who approved it.Lots of cars in year 2005 already have LEDs <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/rofl.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="rofl    :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /> That kinda of joke can be win its place in the 1st page of Malaysian Books of Records. <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/rofl.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":rofl:" title="rofl    :rofl:" data-shortname=":rofl:" /> <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/laugh.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":laugh:" title="Laugh    :laugh:" data-shortname=":laugh:" /> Which is why the only Proton I like is the Satria Neo, the design is original and the nicest among all protons. Maybe only suitable for me, cuz I'm not tall like u bro <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/laugh.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":laugh:" title="Laugh    :laugh:" data-shortname=":laugh:" /> To me the Ford F150 is beautiful, try comparing with other 4x4/trucks like Hilux, Triton and etcs. It looks the best among them. Beetle? If u r talking about the 1st gen then no is ugly, but 2nd gen and current one aint qualified to be categorised as ugly car. Way better design than proton cars for sure. Good looking cars sells better than ugly cars for sure especially when the price and quality are in the package as well. Vios design, especially the current one I would say is beautiful, the car is still using the same old engine and nothing much improve besides the design. It wins consumer's attention by its exterior and also interior design. I see less ugly cars on the road the nice cars on the road. Even the ugly Almera is not consider a lot on the road as well. Then it has proven that good designs helps on sales. <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/listen.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":listen:" title="Listen    :listen:" data-shortname=":listen:" /></blockquote>

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