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<blockquote data-quote="melody" data-source="post: 2707851" data-attributes="member: 14320"><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: DimGray">The problem science has with God</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">science has with God, The Almighty.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">He asks one of his new students to stand and.....</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: So you believe in God?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: Absolutely, sir.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: Is God good?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: Sure.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: Is God all-powerful?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: Yes.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">is this God good then? Hmm?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">(Student is silent.)</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella. Is God</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">good?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: Yes.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: Is Satan good?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: No.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: Where does Satan come from?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: From...God...</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: Yes.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: Yes.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: So who created evil?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student does not answer.)</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">terrible things exist in the world, don't they?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: Yes, sir.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: So, who created them?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Sudent has no answer.)</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: No, sir.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: No, sir.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: Yes.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: Yes.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: And is there such a thing as cold?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: Yes.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: No sir. There isn't.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">cold.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">of it.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">darkness?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">You</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness,</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">make darkness darker, wouldn't you?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir,</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism,</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">life: just the absence of it.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">a monkey?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">course, I do.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">the argument is going.)</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">class is in uproar.)</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">brain?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">(The class breaks out into laughter.)</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain,</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So,</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol,</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">science says that you have no brain, sir.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">unfathomable.)</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray"></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is <span style="color: Red">FAITH.</span> That is</span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Franklin Gothic Medium'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: DarkSlateGray">all that keeps things moving & alive.</span></span></span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="melody, post: 2707851, member: 14320"] [B][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"][SIZE="5"][COLOR="DimGray"]The problem science has with God[/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE="4"][COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty. He asks one of his new students to stand and..... Prof: So you believe in God? Student: Absolutely, sir. Prof: Is God good? Student: Sure. Prof: Is God all-powerful? Student: Yes. Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm? (Student is silent.) Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella. Is God good? Student: Yes. Prof: Is Satan good? Student: No. Prof: Where does Satan come from? Student: From...God... Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world? Student: Yes. Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct? Student: Yes. Prof: So who created evil? Student does not answer.) Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they? Student: Yes, sir. Prof: So, who created them? Sudent has no answer.) Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God? Student: No, sir. Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God? Student: No, sir. Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter? Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't. Prof: Yet you still believe in Him? Student: Yes. Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son? Student: Nothing. I only have my faith. Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has. Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat? Prof: Yes. Student: And is there such a thing as cold? Prof: Yes. Student: No sir. There isn't. The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.) Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it. (There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.) Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness? Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness? Student: You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you? Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man? Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed. Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how? Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey? Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do. Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir? (The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.) Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.) Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain? (The class breaks out into laughter.) Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir? (The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.) Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son. Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is [COLOR="Red"]FAITH.[/COLOR] That is all that keeps things moving & alive.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [/QUOTE]
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