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<blockquote data-quote="drMpower" data-source="post: 1780214" data-attributes="member: 28410"><p><strong>maybe right, and maybe NOT</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>"There is a reason why I mention this. See... Petronas learned a lot by its involvement in Formula 1. The engine is there. the expertise is there. The missing part is only the chassis and the body. It is as simple as that. snap!"</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>SOMEONE please tell me how involvement in F1, and having "some" F1 experience helps you build a commercially, and technologically successful car, engine and transmission package???!?! you guys make it sound like building a toy car man. If building cars are so easy, why are they only so few "full" car manufacturers in the world? The engine is useless in its current form. petronas can't do it themselves. thats why they are looking for a partner, and thats why it will still take them a couple of years of R&D, testing etc, before the engine is ready for use in 2009. even then, thats not a gurantee"</strong></p><p></p><p>yes, i'd agree things are NOT THAT EASY. and my apology if my sarcasm is too much to your liking. but this is POSSIBLE. did i ever mention before that PETRONAS got the loads - technology, money, and manpower? well, as you said - it is not like building toy car. agree. fully aware of that. I am not kidding myself Petronas can easily venture in such territory its not familiar with.</p><p></p><p>The engine development took several years, right? maybe 5,6 years. Yes it can be done. but it takes time. thats what I'm stressing Petronas should do. Use their loads - technology, money, and manpower (expertise) for that purpose! and it takes time and vision. </p><p></p><p>For example, if you are giving a go into producing SUPERCAR, than prepare things up in advance. that is what I call VISION. and Tun Mahathir had this vision when he first letting Petronas to involve in Formula One back in the 1990s. And now, everybody talking about EW01. Has anyone ever think Petronas will ever develop one engine, one day? And this SUPERCAR bisnes, VISION is important. I am sure they got all sorted out by now if they ever think of venturing into SUPERCAR in somewhere 2009. If they ever think of it...</p><p></p><p>If you got the VISION, the DESIRE, then you can go all the way. Yes, there are obstacles there and there but you've got to struggle on. And I said SUPERCAR, meaning either Petronas build a one off working model (just to gain ground on giving trust and believe to prospective buyers) and then concentrate on producing SUPERCARs by orders. </p><p></p><p>Producing cars commercially? well, thats quite a long way to go. but again, if petronas ever think of it, then, it will takes a lot of time, efforts. </p><p></p><p>There are two ways of gaining technology and expertise - one is R&D (partnership, merger, etc. etc) and the other is taking over companies like NAC did on Rover. While doing our own R&D will take lots of time/efforts, taking over present car company will give us access to all its departments including QC and R&D. We will be only thinking of how to better things.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="drMpower, post: 1780214, member: 28410"] [b]maybe right, and maybe NOT "There is a reason why I mention this. See... Petronas learned a lot by its involvement in Formula 1. The engine is there. the expertise is there. The missing part is only the chassis and the body. It is as simple as that. snap!" SOMEONE please tell me how involvement in F1, and having "some" F1 experience helps you build a commercially, and technologically successful car, engine and transmission package???!?! you guys make it sound like building a toy car man. If building cars are so easy, why are they only so few "full" car manufacturers in the world? The engine is useless in its current form. petronas can't do it themselves. thats why they are looking for a partner, and thats why it will still take them a couple of years of R&D, testing etc, before the engine is ready for use in 2009. even then, thats not a gurantee"[/B] yes, i'd agree things are NOT THAT EASY. and my apology if my sarcasm is too much to your liking. but this is POSSIBLE. did i ever mention before that PETRONAS got the loads - technology, money, and manpower? well, as you said - it is not like building toy car. agree. fully aware of that. I am not kidding myself Petronas can easily venture in such territory its not familiar with. The engine development took several years, right? maybe 5,6 years. Yes it can be done. but it takes time. thats what I'm stressing Petronas should do. Use their loads - technology, money, and manpower (expertise) for that purpose! and it takes time and vision. For example, if you are giving a go into producing SUPERCAR, than prepare things up in advance. that is what I call VISION. and Tun Mahathir had this vision when he first letting Petronas to involve in Formula One back in the 1990s. And now, everybody talking about EW01. Has anyone ever think Petronas will ever develop one engine, one day? And this SUPERCAR bisnes, VISION is important. I am sure they got all sorted out by now if they ever think of venturing into SUPERCAR in somewhere 2009. If they ever think of it... If you got the VISION, the DESIRE, then you can go all the way. Yes, there are obstacles there and there but you've got to struggle on. And I said SUPERCAR, meaning either Petronas build a one off working model (just to gain ground on giving trust and believe to prospective buyers) and then concentrate on producing SUPERCARs by orders. Producing cars commercially? well, thats quite a long way to go. but again, if petronas ever think of it, then, it will takes a lot of time, efforts. There are two ways of gaining technology and expertise - one is R&D (partnership, merger, etc. etc) and the other is taking over companies like NAC did on Rover. While doing our own R&D will take lots of time/efforts, taking over present car company will give us access to all its departments including QC and R&D. We will be only thinking of how to better things. [/QUOTE]
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