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<blockquote data-quote="csl" data-source="post: 1063481759" data-attributes="member: 16966"><p>So you said I'm stupid, and yes I'm stupid. And you said I don't know sht about nuclear power, and yes, I don't know sht about it. You also said I'm dangerous, and yes I'm dangerous. If the world is so smart, so safe, most advance countries wouldn't waste their money on building nuclear power that end up with killing its people and also risk their politician future. Their gov had been fouled by some stupid and dangerous engineers. They should not even let the scientist to touch this dangerous thing. But before pulling too far away, I think it is fair for me to declare that I know sht about nuclear power. After all, I'm not in this field nor had been through any related education. This fact cannot be change and it is more than 99.99% chance that I'll never will understand the entire nuclear plant system work. But I have 1 thing that those smart guy like you don't have - the positive attitude. I'll never simply give up due to my own limit. If I cannot do, then ask for help. If the help not enough, ask more. If there is a difficulty, overcome it in stead of turn the head away and move on to other thing and lie to own self that the problem never happen and will never exist. </p><p></p><p>As I mentioned, I don't know much about nuclear power system works. But at least I won't deny the possibility of its existence in this country at the very beginning. We all know that it was not the reactor suddenly blow up like a nuclear missile hit the ground. If we take the earth quake and tsunami away from the picture, it was due to cooling system failure and cause the core overheated. perhaps you can explain better in details on how the meltdown happen as you said I don't know sht. </p><p></p><p>Look at the japan plant that going to blow out, we don't talk about any political concern on the location placing strategy. We don't talk about natural disaster. We start from all cooling pump failed and core start over heat. </p><p></p><p>They have 3 systems as per reported. The main cooling pump, diesel powered backup pump and battery power backup pump. Generally 1st 2 system failed due to damage and last system die off because of running out battery. The reactor overheat and damaged. last I heard they are still spraying water to cool the reactor down while repairing the cooling system.</p><p></p><p>The cause of the failure generally can put it into this way - All pumps failed and not enough time to fix them.</p><p></p><p>Below is my idea. Although stupid like standard 2 student drawing, but at least I tried to suggest something before totally give up. Cost may be a lot higher but it will able to recovered in mid/long term. Target is to reduce the damage from energy crisis to the minimal level that possible to achieve at current stage. Completion date will be few years or a decade or more from now. Drawling is not completed in detail. Just for a rough reference.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz27/sohaino1/sub.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Main point:</p><p></p><p>1. Floating platform to reduce damage of earth quake. Self contain cooling source.</p><p>2. Submersible system can let the reactor soak into water at the very last minute to pro-long the time for repair/rescue job. Can control manually or remotely. In-room pump can circulate the water when soaked into water.</p><p>3. Semi confine system that build from various radioactive resistance, reinforcement material and water leak prevention material and etc to minimize the radioactive material leak if the worst happen. And able to sink everything to the bottom then fill up with radioactive resistance material. </p><p>4.Multiple sources of cooling system, including pipe line that able to mount external pump and cooling source. At least 1 system can be operate remotely (control via satellite) and 1 system to be the conventional manual operating way. </p><p>5. Backup cooling water source. Additionally add few hundred KM length of pipeline to the nearest seaside for continuous water supply. </p><p>6. Designed to build at remote area which rarely going to develop in the future and free from Tsunami related natural disaster. </p><p></p><p></p><p>This may looks crazy. But same thing happen to an iPhone during 80's. As I'm not a highly educated engineer from what what university and work in what what nuclear facility, I leave the specialist to solve the technical difficulties. What I expect from my thread is to educate people as usual. This time is on attitude again but added more crazy essences that what advance countries have but we are lacking of it.</p><p></p><p>I never forget what my purpose of existence. I clearly know that i'm not the material of being a politician nor a person that can change the world in 1 night. I contribute my little effort that I can produce and hope it can inspire people in the future or the people can change the future. </p><p></p><p>And read my post again</p><p></p><p><img src="http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz27/sohaino1/post1.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>I also don't know why it can drag until tech knowledge debate but I'll not refuse to know something new. If you are a tech guy, please tell me do you ever think about the solution and if yes please post. If never, then to be honest and tell us your reason. Even if you tell us you will object everything from the political party you don't like, will be accepted because politicians who represent the people also do that and had been stated on their party policy as compulsory (here goes your vote). We are not in USA or any other countries that each wakil rakyat is free from saying yes or no. (not again, drag till politic <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/adore.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":adore:" title="adore :adore:" data-shortname=":adore:" /> )</p><p></p><p>Forgot to mention, this crap design is like digging a big hole on the ground and put it in. Not like putting a fish tank on the ground. And there was a huge solar charger system for the backup battery never mentioned and forgot to put color.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="csl, post: 1063481759, member: 16966"] So you said I'm stupid, and yes I'm stupid. And you said I don't know sht about nuclear power, and yes, I don't know sht about it. You also said I'm dangerous, and yes I'm dangerous. If the world is so smart, so safe, most advance countries wouldn't waste their money on building nuclear power that end up with killing its people and also risk their politician future. Their gov had been fouled by some stupid and dangerous engineers. They should not even let the scientist to touch this dangerous thing. But before pulling too far away, I think it is fair for me to declare that I know sht about nuclear power. After all, I'm not in this field nor had been through any related education. This fact cannot be change and it is more than 99.99% chance that I'll never will understand the entire nuclear plant system work. But I have 1 thing that those smart guy like you don't have - the positive attitude. I'll never simply give up due to my own limit. If I cannot do, then ask for help. If the help not enough, ask more. If there is a difficulty, overcome it in stead of turn the head away and move on to other thing and lie to own self that the problem never happen and will never exist. As I mentioned, I don't know much about nuclear power system works. But at least I won't deny the possibility of its existence in this country at the very beginning. We all know that it was not the reactor suddenly blow up like a nuclear missile hit the ground. If we take the earth quake and tsunami away from the picture, it was due to cooling system failure and cause the core overheated. perhaps you can explain better in details on how the meltdown happen as you said I don't know sht. Look at the japan plant that going to blow out, we don't talk about any political concern on the location placing strategy. We don't talk about natural disaster. We start from all cooling pump failed and core start over heat. They have 3 systems as per reported. The main cooling pump, diesel powered backup pump and battery power backup pump. Generally 1st 2 system failed due to damage and last system die off because of running out battery. The reactor overheat and damaged. last I heard they are still spraying water to cool the reactor down while repairing the cooling system. The cause of the failure generally can put it into this way - All pumps failed and not enough time to fix them. Below is my idea. Although stupid like standard 2 student drawing, but at least I tried to suggest something before totally give up. Cost may be a lot higher but it will able to recovered in mid/long term. Target is to reduce the damage from energy crisis to the minimal level that possible to achieve at current stage. Completion date will be few years or a decade or more from now. Drawling is not completed in detail. Just for a rough reference. [IMG]http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz27/sohaino1/sub.jpg[/IMG] Main point: 1. Floating platform to reduce damage of earth quake. Self contain cooling source. 2. Submersible system can let the reactor soak into water at the very last minute to pro-long the time for repair/rescue job. Can control manually or remotely. In-room pump can circulate the water when soaked into water. 3. Semi confine system that build from various radioactive resistance, reinforcement material and water leak prevention material and etc to minimize the radioactive material leak if the worst happen. And able to sink everything to the bottom then fill up with radioactive resistance material. 4.Multiple sources of cooling system, including pipe line that able to mount external pump and cooling source. At least 1 system can be operate remotely (control via satellite) and 1 system to be the conventional manual operating way. 5. Backup cooling water source. Additionally add few hundred KM length of pipeline to the nearest seaside for continuous water supply. 6. Designed to build at remote area which rarely going to develop in the future and free from Tsunami related natural disaster. This may looks crazy. But same thing happen to an iPhone during 80's. As I'm not a highly educated engineer from what what university and work in what what nuclear facility, I leave the specialist to solve the technical difficulties. What I expect from my thread is to educate people as usual. This time is on attitude again but added more crazy essences that what advance countries have but we are lacking of it. I never forget what my purpose of existence. I clearly know that i'm not the material of being a politician nor a person that can change the world in 1 night. I contribute my little effort that I can produce and hope it can inspire people in the future or the people can change the future. And read my post again [IMG]http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz27/sohaino1/post1.jpg[/IMG] I also don't know why it can drag until tech knowledge debate but I'll not refuse to know something new. If you are a tech guy, please tell me do you ever think about the solution and if yes please post. If never, then to be honest and tell us your reason. Even if you tell us you will object everything from the political party you don't like, will be accepted because politicians who represent the people also do that and had been stated on their party policy as compulsory (here goes your vote). We are not in USA or any other countries that each wakil rakyat is free from saying yes or no. (not again, drag till politic :adore: ) Forgot to mention, this crap design is like digging a big hole on the ground and put it in. Not like putting a fish tank on the ground. And there was a huge solar charger system for the backup battery never mentioned and forgot to put color. [/QUOTE]
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