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<blockquote data-quote="Zeroed" data-source="post: 2263836" data-attributes="member: 98"><p>Seems like I didnt make my point clear, heh.</p><p></p><p>Blacksamurai and infernal:</p><p></p><p>I am in *NO* way saying that Proton is doing well. Infact I even said that they are not, given the protection they had for 20 years. I am in *NO* way defending Proton's current management ability. Personally I myself think that the wrong people are in there doing a poor job as well, and that if they were to survive the future they should just hand everything including the management side and qc to a big brand... which is what many major car companies had done as well.</p><p></p><p>My post was targeted at the people who bashes Proton at the really fundamental levels. Saying Proton is stupid lah, can go die lah, etc: "Not giving them enough credit."</p><p></p><p></p><p>>in today's economic development, managing a biscuit factory and car manufacturing company is working on the same fundamental rules, knock down your competitor and gain bigger market share.</p><p></p><p>Yes, in a marketing sense. (But its also a lot easier to market a biscuit brand than a car. We're talking about global companies here, some whos been operating for almost 100 years.) </p><p></p><p>I was referring to the production side. Proton reporting a loss of 500million and everyone is saying that Proton is stupid, can go die lah... fact is there are so many factors involved in the production of cars alone that a company with operations of this magnitude making a loss is perfectly normal, let alone throwing in factors like competition, marketing and political (as well as protecting saudara-mara) issues. </p><p></p><p>edit: I am aware that they have been making a loss for sometime, btw. But nonetheless I believe they are trying to turn the tables, and even appointed perodua's ceo sometime ago</p><p></p><p></p><p>Once again: Im not supporting Proton. Im just saying "If you want to bash Proton, atleast make sense with it lah, given the type of operations they conduct. "</p><p></p><p>Just my opinion ok, Im too lazy to make anymore arguments out of it already. <img src="https://zerotohundred.com/forums/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":biggrin:" title="Biggrin :biggrin:" data-shortname=":biggrin:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zeroed, post: 2263836, member: 98"] Seems like I didnt make my point clear, heh. Blacksamurai and infernal: I am in *NO* way saying that Proton is doing well. Infact I even said that they are not, given the protection they had for 20 years. I am in *NO* way defending Proton's current management ability. Personally I myself think that the wrong people are in there doing a poor job as well, and that if they were to survive the future they should just hand everything including the management side and qc to a big brand... which is what many major car companies had done as well. My post was targeted at the people who bashes Proton at the really fundamental levels. Saying Proton is stupid lah, can go die lah, etc: "Not giving them enough credit." >in today's economic development, managing a biscuit factory and car manufacturing company is working on the same fundamental rules, knock down your competitor and gain bigger market share. Yes, in a marketing sense. (But its also a lot easier to market a biscuit brand than a car. We're talking about global companies here, some whos been operating for almost 100 years.) I was referring to the production side. Proton reporting a loss of 500million and everyone is saying that Proton is stupid, can go die lah... fact is there are so many factors involved in the production of cars alone that a company with operations of this magnitude making a loss is perfectly normal, let alone throwing in factors like competition, marketing and political (as well as protecting saudara-mara) issues. edit: I am aware that they have been making a loss for sometime, btw. But nonetheless I believe they are trying to turn the tables, and even appointed perodua's ceo sometime ago Once again: Im not supporting Proton. Im just saying "If you want to bash Proton, atleast make sense with it lah, given the type of operations they conduct. " Just my opinion ok, Im too lazy to make anymore arguments out of it already. :biggrin: [/QUOTE]
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