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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Useless" data-source="post: 1206585" data-attributes="member: 670">Gee, i thought this thread died a long time ago just as it was getting interesting. keep it up peeps!fandango,standalones are stupid. Its how well the user understand and works with the unit. Adaptability is a pretty big word to use for standalones as there is so many varying factors that influence total input. hmm, maybe a simple illustration would be:condition 1:a + b = ycondition 2:a + b + c + ... zz = Xcondition 1 would most probably be a derivative used by part time tuners. whereby condition 2 is used by OEM. so if the programmable ecu has already been catered for these extra varying conditions, hence we can say that the unit respond to varying input. else nothing. in the real world, human intervention is always required. the funny thing is that the more complex the ecu is being programmed, admittedly the response time is shorter and the output is more accurate; BUT these units are the ones which will always produce error codes due to one of the many perimeters that fall out of limits.just my poor 2 cents. i am not a tuner or standalone expert. cheers ppl!useless</blockquote>

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