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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EvolutionZ" data-source="post: 3658306" data-attributes="member: 54910">actually there are problems with new cars, not necessary proton. somehow there are due to human error, machine error, mechanical failures etc etc etc...but car maker usually comes with a minimum warranty of 2yrs or 50000km(taking care of all the concerns). hassle in proton sc due to high volume of cars in & out daily from the sc. i believe appointment are made earlier will solve alot things easier.i am grateful there are some who says proton air cond is great, proton handling is good, proton parts are easy to get and reasonable priced, proton built quality has improved etc...generally ppl are saying proton quality sucks, proton is unfair, proton is selfish, proton is cheating etc etc etc, to me, the only ppl that can say that are those really experienced the hassle and the nonsense that happened to their cars. but it turned up, word of mouth are greater than media/press coverage........so many ppl even small kids can brag about how bad is proton....seriously its a great damage to our NATIONAL ICON......but somehow, most of the ppl who are blowing trumpets are not those who owned proton cars....they juz merely listening to ppl complaining and then start blowing their bloody trumpets around, i do encounter some, when i ask have u own a proton b4, no, riding a bike, driving a 120y, driving other make of cars....so is it fair? is it accurate or is it definite that proton is such inferior in product and quality?some bro says ppl are damaging proton image and some are defending....its true...but if u see the volume of proton cars sold in malaysia vs other make are scale of 1:10, so the % of problematic cars are definitely higher compared to others...some sold bout 5k to 10k unit of cars a year..of coz la u don hear so much problem. proton owner usually wil thrashed their car hard, not changing the oil on time, ATF fluid never change then blame poor quality, gear spoilt la bla bla bla....perodua also malaysian made, they do have problems, dont tell me their quality are so great until zero defects....ya, they can brag they got lowest defect/ error but its bullS**T, coz i knew ppl in perodua, proton big bosses are from perodua.....honda, toyota, nissan, naza,hyundai, other marque..no prob? i don think so...but the mentality of ppl here are more nearer to "kiasu", my friend bought a honda city 1.5 vtec E spec...wow, rm90k wor....very glamour wor...one nite cannot start, dunno wiring or immobilizer, rescue team came and dunno wat to do, send to workshop, then troubleshoot still dunno...then change the whole alarm system....naza peugeot no need to say more la..u guys can read thread in here....i personally listen to the frustration and anger from a happy but turned sad owner...toyota unser, so thirsty and under power..nobody complaint...naza ria - engine gasket burnt resulting in water sips into engine, nobody complaint..its a known fact....honda city CVT - 7 speed.....fails after 100,000km and cost of changing one is rm27000.00 toyota vios - discounts been given more and more and more from month to month and outlet to outlet ended up selling bout price near to waja cps....if so selleable why throw prices?nissan latio - problem with their engine mounting....defect which they are quietly calling back their customers...nobody knows rite?all the above summarize that ppl who bought other cars, especially "LOCAL ASSEMBLED JAPANESE CARS" and not CBU/JDM cars.......always think their are more superior, so got problem of coz "diam diam la" coz "sudah beli" in chinese called "am tui liao"those cars are assembled in malaysia too by who? by ppl in msia too..so the quality still very much similar.proton offering 175000km warranty and if got problem go to them la....i believe it can be solve...for economical wise, comparing apple to apple, u can save easily rm10k to rm20k for purchasing a higher cc or even similar specs of car compared to other giant car maker.toyota. honda, nissan are well known company, i don deny they made good quality cars...but to condemn proton is not the right solution...work harder and if u r lucky guy, u can own good quality & luxury cars...but what about other average wage earner who need mode of transportation? they depend on proton to supply them lower/reasonable priced cars to fulfill their needs...so its one man meat and another man's poison...juz my 2cents....no intention to flame anyone...saying what i need to say, being using proton all my life....u name the model, i used/drove before..so far so good..no problem at all....some minor minor problem i think its not anything to hoo haa about.....lets concentrate on work and improve our standard of living and buy ourselves a lexus, jaguar,mercedes, volvo and bmw......then the pampering starts....cheerz</blockquote>

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