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<blockquote data-quote="sysh" data-source="post: 1333253" data-attributes="member: 17944"><p><em>edit: was typing this out before the subsequent post from the others.. so i might not addressed everything as i've not taken into account the other ppl's viewpoints.</em></p><p></p><p>say, it looks like 'somebody' has opened up this thread again.</p><p>first of all.. i've got to say that kudos to soggie for taking time to share his views in a pretty detail manner. dang, it took so much time to read it tho..hehe! as you know, my viewpoint takes a slightly narrow perspective emphasing on the gist of their comment compared to a general view of what you said.. think that's where some of my views with yours conflict.</p><p></p><p>well.. the following only applies to what i've said so far (only the part of the low-income earners group) 'cos i've got agree that some of the post that ppl have made here were rather shallow in nature, so if you have read my replies so far, you'd know where i'm standing on the interpretation of the article. as i've typed it all down in detail (if anybody wants to read it) please do 'cos i'm not gonna type it again.</p><p></p><p>just some comments i would like to make to soggie's statement from my stand. first of all, i think we should interprete things on a piece meal basis, i'd say we don't get in what the government has been saying about the income ranges because it encompass a lot of factors and much not relevant to this discussion. let's compare apples to apples, alrite?</p><p></p><p></p><p>ok, to me.. i don't think being associated with the "lower income bracket" is the issue, i see no issue here. to me, i might not be banking in on the big bucks yet, but i don't feel in any way threatened or oppressed if somebody said i was "lower income" 'cos i'm making good and clean money. anybody who feels ashamed being categorised in this should serve this as a wake up call and strive to better themselves, but this is another story then.</p><p></p><p>well.. the way how i interprete your points, you assume that their facts are based on a general statistical statement.. yes, you might be correct and i won't argue with you on that. but i feel a statement's never free from any bias unless you're staying in some sort of utopian environment. yes, according to him.. he might be correct that this group make up a big portion by buying these cheaper stuff.. but doing so he has exposed himself to critics (like some of us) on how he judges the "lower income group". you know, it's always does sound better to pinpoint a group for your best interest, if you can interprete what i mean. fine, i might be overcritical on his comments.. but i think that his comments do no justice to the stigma already shrouding the group.</p><p></p><p>at the end of the day, i reiterate that everybody's views are somewhat different from where they stand and how they interprete this statement.. thus conflicting views, only way to find out truly what they have said is by going back to the source..which i think is a waste of time..they'd prolly ask you to buy some stuff from them while you interview them..hehe</p><p></p><p>well.. that's what i've got to say right now</p><p>might be a bit fuzzy here and there 'cos i actually just woke up, so if there are some contradiction issues here..do let me know and i'll try to clear it up.</p><p>cheers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sysh, post: 1333253, member: 17944"] [I]edit: was typing this out before the subsequent post from the others.. so i might not addressed everything as i've not taken into account the other ppl's viewpoints.[/I] say, it looks like 'somebody' has opened up this thread again. first of all.. i've got to say that kudos to soggie for taking time to share his views in a pretty detail manner. dang, it took so much time to read it tho..hehe! as you know, my viewpoint takes a slightly narrow perspective emphasing on the gist of their comment compared to a general view of what you said.. think that's where some of my views with yours conflict. well.. the following only applies to what i've said so far (only the part of the low-income earners group) 'cos i've got agree that some of the post that ppl have made here were rather shallow in nature, so if you have read my replies so far, you'd know where i'm standing on the interpretation of the article. as i've typed it all down in detail (if anybody wants to read it) please do 'cos i'm not gonna type it again. just some comments i would like to make to soggie's statement from my stand. first of all, i think we should interprete things on a piece meal basis, i'd say we don't get in what the government has been saying about the income ranges because it encompass a lot of factors and much not relevant to this discussion. let's compare apples to apples, alrite? ok, to me.. i don't think being associated with the "lower income bracket" is the issue, i see no issue here. to me, i might not be banking in on the big bucks yet, but i don't feel in any way threatened or oppressed if somebody said i was "lower income" 'cos i'm making good and clean money. anybody who feels ashamed being categorised in this should serve this as a wake up call and strive to better themselves, but this is another story then. well.. the way how i interprete your points, you assume that their facts are based on a general statistical statement.. yes, you might be correct and i won't argue with you on that. but i feel a statement's never free from any bias unless you're staying in some sort of utopian environment. yes, according to him.. he might be correct that this group make up a big portion by buying these cheaper stuff.. but doing so he has exposed himself to critics (like some of us) on how he judges the "lower income group". you know, it's always does sound better to pinpoint a group for your best interest, if you can interprete what i mean. fine, i might be overcritical on his comments.. but i think that his comments do no justice to the stigma already shrouding the group. at the end of the day, i reiterate that everybody's views are somewhat different from where they stand and how they interprete this statement.. thus conflicting views, only way to find out truly what they have said is by going back to the source..which i think is a waste of time..they'd prolly ask you to buy some stuff from them while you interview them..hehe well.. that's what i've got to say right now might be a bit fuzzy here and there 'cos i actually just woke up, so if there are some contradiction issues here..do let me know and i'll try to clear it up. cheers. [/QUOTE]
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