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<blockquote data-quote="jinkl" data-source="post: 3219060" data-attributes="member: 3008"><p>Engine :</p><p></p><p>All the vr4's have the same pistons and compression, they are codded 63DT.</p><p>EVO 1 & 2 has the same compression which is 8.5:1 which is same as 2g's</p><p>VR4's all have 7.8:1 compression which is same as 1G's.</p><p>EVO III has 9:1 compression. Code on top of pistons</p><p>EVO1 - H1</p><p>EVO2 - H2</p><p>EVO3 – EV</p><p></p><p>My vr4 engine that i just purchase , ROFL</p><p>http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8601/31102008326ct0.jpg</p><p></p><p>All the vr4's have big ports like the 1G's . The evo's have smaller n wider ports like 2g's.</p><p>u can see the intake manifold port comparison over here</p><p>[ATTACH=full]657639[/ATTACH](credits to ryan denke for this pic)</p><p>There is way to see if its a big port of a small port from the head , they have a cast marking on the side near the CAS , 2.0 is a big port , 1.8 is a 4g67 head , Evo's have diffrent markings.</p><p></p><p>EVO1 - G6K - 1 or 2</p><p>EVO 2 - G6K - 3</p><p>EVO 3 - G6K - 4 or 5 </p><p></p><p></p><p>Turbo's </p><p></p><p>VR4RS and EVO1 has the same td05 small 16g while the evo2 has the td05 big 16g.</p><p>EVO III is a diffrent species. Somethings that I have experimented , the EVO 4-9 stock exhaust manifold will fit the 1g,2g 4G63 head , you can use their TD05HR , but the problem is the clearance issue with the alternator if its fitted in a DSM or EVO 1-3. Another engine is the RVR , RVR has a 4g63 with td04HL , i guess td04HL is not that common in US . td04HL is twin fin turbo and the turbine housing is nearly the size of the 14b 6cm housing. The o2 housing of a the td05 14b will fit the td04hl without mods.</p><p></p><p>Codes for turbo , EVO 1 - 45 , EVO 2 - 46 , EVO 3 - 47 </p><p></p><p>EVO III Turbo</p><p>http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6059/10112008418ek0.jpg</p><p></p><p>Vr4 Turbo</p><p>http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5223/10112008430yk5.jpg</p><p></p><p>Top is EVO I turbo , below is a EVO III</p><p>http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7687/10112008465bv7.jpg</p><p></p><p>EVO III Turbo</p><p>http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4413/10112008428kh2.jpg</p><p></p><p>EVO III Turbine Housing</p><p>http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2152/10112008466ec6.jpg</p><p></p><p>EVO I Turbine Housing</p><p>http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9813/10112008467tc3.jpg</p><p></p><p>EVO 8 Turbo</p><p>http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1143/10112008429mr8.jpg http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4787/10112008419mn5.jpg</p><p></p><p></p><p>ECU's</p><p></p><p>as for Ecu's , all the evo's have different ecu's and mappings , the evo3 has less timing in it due to high compression. Don't get fooled by ecu's such as Mines and Ralliart, they are not worth it compared to your DSMLink. All evo ecu's have EPROM on it. But of course DSMlink isn't compatible with it. </p><p></p><p>vr4 200hp ECU 8618</p><p>vr4 220hp ECU 8618</p><p>vr4 240hp ECU 5818</p><p>E1 - 7701</p><p>E2 - 2468</p><p>E3 - 2364</p><p></p><p>Chassis Code:</p><p></p><p>EVO 1 --CD9A-SNGF</p><p>EVO 2 - CE9A-SNGF</p><p>EVO 3 - CE9A-SNGF </p><p></p><p></p><p>Injectors</p><p></p><p>Injector wise, guys, don't argue , we have few thousand cars over here, we cant be lying ,</p><p>VR4 200,220 Cyclones have 450cc injectors , VR4RS , Evo 1,2,3 have yellow 510cc injectors , EVO 6-8 have 560cc injectors , another easy upgrade is the RX7 denso injectors, they are 550cc. There are many people who do think the EVO3 has a 560cc injectors, it doesn't. 450cc VR4 injectors are blue in colour. 560cc injectors do have 560cc written beside their injectors. Physically , look at the injector nozzle of the 510cc Yellow injector, if it has twin nozzles its a evo, if its a single spray patern its the Vr4rs</p><p></p><p>Vr4RS 510cc injectors</p><p>http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1048/10112008389rg5.jpg</p><p></p><p>The EVO I</p><p>http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/180/10112008394zm9.jpg</p><p></p><p>The EVO III</p><p>http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2318/10112008451ba4.jpg</p><p></p><p>Throttle Body wise , the 1G has the 60mm over in the US, its cousin vr4 has only a 54mm Throttle while all the evo's do have 60mm TBs. Alternative TBs which are 60mm are Mitsubishi 6A11T and Mivec 4G92.</p><p></p><p>Drivetrain</p><p>VR4 gb's have the weakest 1st gear (this was even stated in Jack Transmissions)</p><p>EVO 1-3 have close ratio gearboxes. Cars that run 2wd over here usually go through a process where we throw away the extra gears & parts in the GB since we want to run 2wd only. EVO III comes stock with LSD at the rear.</p><p></p><p>Lately I opened up my evo III gb, it had something different in it, rather than the normal coupling, mine had one with an engrave which noted "Adelia Magic" , the picture is below, I contacted that Japanese company through email, what they have mentioned is that , the allen bolts can be removed from the coupling, there are two pieces of clutch inside and some adjustments can be made to it , these adjustments will determine the amount of torque i distribute between the rear and front wheels. Once the clutch inside it tends to slip, it will then feed the rear wheels. How true it is ? I am yet to find out.</p><p></p><p>My Adelia Magic Coupling</p><p>http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6678/copyoftlak1893fg9.jpg</p><p></p><p>Gearboxes codes (copy pasted):</p><p>W5M33-2-NGRE Lancer gsr RS (1992, 1800cc) ?</p><p>W5M33-2-NNZT Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94 ?</p><p>W5M33-2-NPXV 91-94 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 6/90-2/94 ?</p><p>W5M33-2-NPZT 95-96 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94-6/96 ?</p><p>W5M33-2-NQBE Libero/Lancer Gsr, non lsd version of NRWE No 3.545</p><p>W5M33-2-NQBK 1991-92 to 4/92 VR4/ZR4 Galant ?</p><p>W5M33-2-NQBM 1992 Galant to 5/92 ?</p><p>W5M33-2-NRBE 92-95 Lancer GSR, lightweight synco's 2nd & 3rd No 3.545</p><p>W5M33-2-NRWE 92-95 Lancer GSR</p><p>W5M33-2-NRXD 1990 Cyborg No 3.545</p><p>W5M33-2-UPFE Evo3 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909</p><p>W5M33-2-UPGE Evo3 GSR non LSD No 3.909</p><p>W5M33-2-UPWE Evo3 GSR with front LSD Yes 3.909</p><p>W5M33-2-UPYE Evo3 RS non LSD No 3.909</p><p>W5M33-2-WPFE Evo2 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909</p><p>W5M33-2-WPGE Evo2 GSR non LSD No 3.909</p><p>W5M33-2-WPVF Galant VR4 E84A ?</p><p>W5M33-2-WPWE Evo2 GSR with front LSD Yes 3.909</p><p>W5M33-2-WPYE Evo2 RS non LSD No 3.909</p><p>W5M33-2-WQFE Evo1 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909</p><p>W5M33-2-WQFK Galant VR4 evo ? ?</p><p>W5M33-2-WQGE Evo1 GSR non LSD No 3.909</p><p>W5M33-2-WQNK VR4 Evo, close ratio box ? No 3.909</p><p>W5M33-2-WQWE Evo1 GSR (and RS?) with front LSD Yes 3.909</p><p>W5M33-2-WQYE Evo1 RS non LSD No 3.909</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jinkl, post: 3219060, member: 3008"] Engine : All the vr4's have the same pistons and compression, they are codded 63DT. EVO 1 & 2 has the same compression which is 8.5:1 which is same as 2g's VR4's all have 7.8:1 compression which is same as 1G's. EVO III has 9:1 compression. Code on top of pistons EVO1 - H1 EVO2 - H2 EVO3 – EV My vr4 engine that i just purchase , ROFL http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8601/31102008326ct0.jpg All the vr4's have big ports like the 1G's . The evo's have smaller n wider ports like 2g's. u can see the intake manifold port comparison over here [ATTACH=full]657639[/ATTACH](credits to ryan denke for this pic) There is way to see if its a big port of a small port from the head , they have a cast marking on the side near the CAS , 2.0 is a big port , 1.8 is a 4g67 head , Evo's have diffrent markings. EVO1 - G6K - 1 or 2 EVO 2 - G6K - 3 EVO 3 - G6K - 4 or 5 Turbo's VR4RS and EVO1 has the same td05 small 16g while the evo2 has the td05 big 16g. EVO III is a diffrent species. Somethings that I have experimented , the EVO 4-9 stock exhaust manifold will fit the 1g,2g 4G63 head , you can use their TD05HR , but the problem is the clearance issue with the alternator if its fitted in a DSM or EVO 1-3. Another engine is the RVR , RVR has a 4g63 with td04HL , i guess td04HL is not that common in US . td04HL is twin fin turbo and the turbine housing is nearly the size of the 14b 6cm housing. The o2 housing of a the td05 14b will fit the td04hl without mods. Codes for turbo , EVO 1 - 45 , EVO 2 - 46 , EVO 3 - 47 EVO III Turbo http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6059/10112008418ek0.jpg Vr4 Turbo http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5223/10112008430yk5.jpg Top is EVO I turbo , below is a EVO III http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7687/10112008465bv7.jpg EVO III Turbo http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4413/10112008428kh2.jpg EVO III Turbine Housing http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2152/10112008466ec6.jpg EVO I Turbine Housing http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9813/10112008467tc3.jpg EVO 8 Turbo http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1143/10112008429mr8.jpg http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4787/10112008419mn5.jpg ECU's as for Ecu's , all the evo's have different ecu's and mappings , the evo3 has less timing in it due to high compression. Don't get fooled by ecu's such as Mines and Ralliart, they are not worth it compared to your DSMLink. All evo ecu's have EPROM on it. But of course DSMlink isn't compatible with it. vr4 200hp ECU 8618 vr4 220hp ECU 8618 vr4 240hp ECU 5818 E1 - 7701 E2 - 2468 E3 - 2364 Chassis Code: EVO 1 --CD9A-SNGF EVO 2 - CE9A-SNGF EVO 3 - CE9A-SNGF Injectors Injector wise, guys, don't argue , we have few thousand cars over here, we cant be lying , VR4 200,220 Cyclones have 450cc injectors , VR4RS , Evo 1,2,3 have yellow 510cc injectors , EVO 6-8 have 560cc injectors , another easy upgrade is the RX7 denso injectors, they are 550cc. There are many people who do think the EVO3 has a 560cc injectors, it doesn't. 450cc VR4 injectors are blue in colour. 560cc injectors do have 560cc written beside their injectors. Physically , look at the injector nozzle of the 510cc Yellow injector, if it has twin nozzles its a evo, if its a single spray patern its the Vr4rs Vr4RS 510cc injectors http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1048/10112008389rg5.jpg The EVO I http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/180/10112008394zm9.jpg The EVO III http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2318/10112008451ba4.jpg Throttle Body wise , the 1G has the 60mm over in the US, its cousin vr4 has only a 54mm Throttle while all the evo's do have 60mm TBs. Alternative TBs which are 60mm are Mitsubishi 6A11T and Mivec 4G92. Drivetrain VR4 gb's have the weakest 1st gear (this was even stated in Jack Transmissions) EVO 1-3 have close ratio gearboxes. Cars that run 2wd over here usually go through a process where we throw away the extra gears & parts in the GB since we want to run 2wd only. EVO III comes stock with LSD at the rear. Lately I opened up my evo III gb, it had something different in it, rather than the normal coupling, mine had one with an engrave which noted "Adelia Magic" , the picture is below, I contacted that Japanese company through email, what they have mentioned is that , the allen bolts can be removed from the coupling, there are two pieces of clutch inside and some adjustments can be made to it , these adjustments will determine the amount of torque i distribute between the rear and front wheels. Once the clutch inside it tends to slip, it will then feed the rear wheels. How true it is ? I am yet to find out. My Adelia Magic Coupling http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6678/copyoftlak1893fg9.jpg Gearboxes codes (copy pasted): W5M33-2-NGRE Lancer gsr RS (1992, 1800cc) ? W5M33-2-NNZT Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94 ? W5M33-2-NPXV 91-94 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 6/90-2/94 ? W5M33-2-NPZT 95-96 Eclipse AWD 5spd mfg 3/94-6/96 ? W5M33-2-NQBE Libero/Lancer Gsr, non lsd version of NRWE No 3.545 W5M33-2-NQBK 1991-92 to 4/92 VR4/ZR4 Galant ? W5M33-2-NQBM 1992 Galant to 5/92 ? W5M33-2-NRBE 92-95 Lancer GSR, lightweight synco's 2nd & 3rd No 3.545 W5M33-2-NRWE 92-95 Lancer GSR W5M33-2-NRXD 1990 Cyborg No 3.545 W5M33-2-UPFE Evo3 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909 W5M33-2-UPGE Evo3 GSR non LSD No 3.909 W5M33-2-UPWE Evo3 GSR with front LSD Yes 3.909 W5M33-2-UPYE Evo3 RS non LSD No 3.909 W5M33-2-WPFE Evo2 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909 W5M33-2-WPGE Evo2 GSR non LSD No 3.909 W5M33-2-WPVF Galant VR4 E84A ? W5M33-2-WPWE Evo2 GSR with front LSD Yes 3.909 W5M33-2-WPYE Evo2 RS non LSD No 3.909 W5M33-2-WQFE Evo1 RS with front LSD Yes 3.909 W5M33-2-WQFK Galant VR4 evo ? ? W5M33-2-WQGE Evo1 GSR non LSD No 3.909 W5M33-2-WQNK VR4 Evo, close ratio box ? No 3.909 W5M33-2-WQWE Evo1 GSR (and RS?) with front LSD Yes 3.909 W5M33-2-WQYE Evo1 RS non LSD No 3.909 [/QUOTE]
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