Wira 4G15 Engine Oil Leak

[cvkit17]

Dear ZTHians,

My proton wira with 4G15 engine has a leak. I suspect it is due to gasket problem. I have got two quotes from mechanics and one quoted me RM5xx including ordinary service + repair valve and another quoted me RM1k because he said he is unsure what other damages are there.

Well this problem has been there quite some time since my car overheated and blew its head. A new head from chop shop replaced the blown one but perhaps due to poor installation, oil leaks and I wasnt aware of it as I dont drive this car anymore. Engine oil level would gradually decrease. It took 3000km for the engine oil level to reach minimum safe level.

Has anyone here repaired the gasket before and may i know how much? I would like to have a rough idea how much it would cost thus I can decide whether to repair or not to repair. (selling off this car next year)

Kindly advise.

 

[synail]

dude im no pro

-low quality gasket
-poor installation
-distorted head
-clogged oil line(unlikely to happen)
-spoiled distributor o-ring

rm5xx-1k? try survey other ws
good luck

 

[Izso]

Rm500+ is almost the price (actually more than) of a top overhaul. It should include replacement head gasket, oil seals and valve reconditioning. If no problem you probably don't even need to skim the head (which should save you some money) but as a general rule taking out the head means you skim it one time so make sure that's in the quotation.

You probably should ask around sommore. I could recommend a few people to you depending on where you location is. PM me if interested la

 

[cvkit17]

The RM500 quote I got was actually from a friend who is a mechanic. But you know lar, some friends will chop you the more they know you so I just want to find out. RM500 is incl. valve reconditioning and skimming the head he told me. I live in Jalan Ipoh area...know any good shop there?

 

[vr2turbo]

Common problem for this engine. Seen many already, but as for RM1k quote is wrong. He should quote for normal top overhaul and inform you if he finds other things that needs replacing the cost could go up....

 

[Izso]

The RM500 quote I got was actually from a friend who is a mechanic. But you know lar, some friends will chop you the more they know you so I just want to find out. RM500 is incl. valve reconditioning and skimming the head he told me. I live in Jalan Ipoh area...know any good shop there?

If you trust the mech or is friends, the price may go up to some extent but the guarantee is he will do what he promises to do, and not skip it and tell you he did it. Unscrupoulus in that sense is what i consider chopping. Price wise I don't mind paying for peace of mind. Especially since I know I can bug my friend everyday if anything goes wrong and he wouldn't have anything to say about it, so to prevent you from bugging him, he'll do a good job.

I don't know anyone nearby Jln Ipoh, just at The Mines, Cheras, PJ (Subang) and USJ.

 

[DanzEterna]

buy the top overhaul set yourself & pay the mech for workmanship fees.

 

[Rleo6965]

Confirm first the source of oil leak. Before you do expensive TOH. You mentioned that your engine before have overheated. Rubber seals becomes hard and not very good in sealing when overheated. Therefore causing oil leaks.
Have you replaced the 2 rubber seal of your distributor? You can confirm oil leak by removing the distributor cap. Look inside or under the cap if you have oil leaks.

 

[vr2turbo]

If you trust the mech or is friends, the price may go up to some extent but the guarantee is he will do what he promises to do, and not skip it and tell you he did it. Unscrupoulus in that sense is what i consider chopping. Price wise I don't mind paying for peace of mind. Especially since I know I can bug my friend everyday if anything goes wrong and he wouldn't have anything to say about it, so to prevent you from bugging him, he'll do a good job.

I don't know anyone nearby Jln Ipoh, just at The Mines, Cheras, PJ (Subang) and USJ.

Yup, agree. For my mechanic we became good friends and now also family friends already. My car can leave with him, sometimes if his car is available he will lent to me and so on. Things needs changing he will inform me first....

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buy the top overhaul set yourself & pay the mech for workmanship fees.

Normally what I can DIY I will go and buy myself. If need mechanic to repair just leave to him. He order wrong, he can return. I buy wrong, chialat loh.....

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Confirm first the source of oil leak. Before you do expensive TOH. You mentioned that your engine before have overheated. Rubber seals becomes hard and not very good in sealing when overheated. Therefore causing oil leaks.
Have you replaced the 2 rubber seal of your distributor? You can confirm oil leak by removing the distributor cap. Look inside or under the cap if you have oil leaks.

Yup, another common leak problem.....

 

[cvkit17]

I've cleaned the engine before troubleshooting for the source of the oil leak. The pic I took shows the only place that has leaking. The engine cap and drain plug gasket had been replaced with new ones. Now left this leak...hmmm...guess ill have to ask some more mechanics for quotes. Thanks for helping guys

 

[Izso]

I only just saw the pic (blocked in the office). That's definitely a head gasket leak. If you want a temporary fix you can try that Lucas leak stop or whatever you call it. It's a temporary fix until you change oil. Not a great solution though.

Get this head gasket fixed fast. If the gasket breaks more, it'll be another my-case. Coolant mixing with engine oil and you can kiss your money byebye cuz you'll need to do more than just a gasket change.

 

[Rleo6965]

Watch out oil leak find its way to your lower radiator hose. It will weaken the rubber hose if stay for very long period. Your post picture show leak was same area that lower radiator hose was located.

 

[cvkit17]

Thanks for the advices guys...will get quote from Proton Service centre to see how much to get a rough idea. Then get from more

 

[Izso]

Proton SC will rip you off by about 1k. Suggest you talk to a reliable mech instead

 

[cvkit17]

Proton SC will rip you off by about 1k. Suggest you talk to a reliable mech instead

Well the SC near my place seems honest and ok...coz last time I got my car being repaired there. Of course, gotta get more quotes to compare if not, like u said, sure ill be chopped into 2013 pieces. Gotta repair it if its around 500... Still need to use that car to Singapore..oh well oh well..

 

[vr2turbo]

you don't have a regular mechanic?

 

[cvkit17]

you don't have a regular mechanic?

The first two quotes are from my regular mechanic bro...one is my friend and another is just beside my previous office. But even if regular, I'm gonna check the price too...mayb I kiasu or kiasi hahajust wana make sure that I am not chopped.

 

[vr2turbo]

Oh! my regular is also a family friend now, and I trust him. So far anything wrong he will redo or as you say under warranty....

 

[cvkit17]

Just to update:

I've repaired my wira. Things and parts involved were:

1. Cylinder head gasket
2. Valve grinding
3. Valve seals
4. Spark plugs
5. 2 radiator hoses
6. Apollo semi synthetic engine oil
7. Apollo gear oil

The total cost of repair: RM700.00

Driven to Singapore from KL and then back to KL from SG. Highway + Singapore city drive = 12.76km/liter

No problem so far. Not bad.

 

[vr2turbo]

Just to update:

I've repaired my wira. Things and parts involved were:

1. Cylinder head gasket
2. Valve grinding
3. Valve seals
4. Spark plugs
5. 2 radiator hoses
6. Apollo semi synthetic engine oil
7. Apollo gear oil

The total cost of repair: RM700.00

Driven to Singapore from KL and then back to KL from SG. Highway + Singapore city drive = 12.76km/liter

No problem so far. Not bad.

Oh! you did top overhaul already.

Wah! now can fly.....using Apollo (rocket) engine oil......