Honda President confirms NSX successor based on HSV-010 back on

[redridinghood86]

Looks like everyone is angry ---> when I called Civic Type-R 'ricer'.:hmmmm:. Heheh, no need to get angry lah.. Yes, maybe I shouldn't call it rice, but the Civic Type-R was based on a 4-door, front wheel drive passenger sedan, which means it's not developed as a true sports car from the beginning. The NSX and this, it's successor is developed as track machines from the ground up, same class as previous skylines and R35. Sure got different.

After the NSX, Honda didn't really want to develop pure sports car like Nissan did with their Fairladys and Skylines. Instead, they rely too much on Integras and Civics as their most sporty lineup, which is sad..

I drive civic too (old one lah, not type r sum more )

Perhaps you were misinformed or perhaps in your opinion, a true sports car should at least pack 250hp or more. Ask anyone who sat on a Type R before, if they are any less sportier than the GTRs or Fairladyz in Sepang. Sure the Type Rs are slower than them, but in terms of raw-ness? The Type Rs never fail, apart from ABS, there is virtually no electronic traction control or whatever controls to aid the driver.

Or maybe you just prefer a car with a sporty looking look. A Type R is different though, whether is it an NSX or EK9, it's always about racing, not for posers. :P

 

[rickarch]

Perhaps you were misinformed or perhaps in your opinion, a true sports car should at least pack 250hp or more. Ask anyone who sat on a Type R before, if they are any less sportier than the GTRs or Fairladyz in Sepang. Sure the Type Rs are slower than them, but in terms of raw-ness? The Type Rs never fail, apart from ABS, there is virtually no electronic traction control or whatever controls to aid the driver.

Or maybe you just prefer a car with a sporty looking look. A Type R is different though, whether is it an NSX or EK9, it's always about racing, not for posers. :P

so when u wanna bring me for a taxi-ride with kelab sahabat?

 

[g4i8y0t]

Guys, what I actually mean is that I'm just glad that honda had found their racing spirit again after the NSX stopped production. Honda just can't compete with with other Japanese sports car maker like Nissan, Mitsu and Subaru if they only have the Type-R in their garage. Accept the fact that Type-Rs can't and can never compete with Skylines & FQ400 Evos.. Why is it that Honda fans can't accept even the slightest critisism to their beloved Honda brand.. Type-R is raw, of course it is since most of the insulation have been removed, that increases the sense of speed even more..

 

[redridinghood86]

Guys, what I actually mean is that I'm just glad that honda had found their racing spirit again after the NSX stopped production. Honda just can't compete with with other Japanese sports car maker like Nissan, Mitsu and Subaru if they only have the Type-R in their garage. Accept the fact that Type-Rs can't and can never compete with Skylines & FQ400 Evos.. Why is it that Honda fans can't accept even the slightest critisism to their beloved Honda brand.. Type-R is raw, of course it is since most of the insulation have been removed, that increases the sense of speed even more..

You sir, are different, and are entitled to your own opinion and I respect that. But when it comes to raw-ness, it does not only mean less weight. Perhaps you should read more into the R's engineering and purpose, the driver makes the car turn instead of all the gizmos, granted some prefer those gizmos, but those who appreciates the Rs usually don't want those electronic driving aids to aid their driving.

Ever wonder why some people still prefer the MRS or the Lotus over Evos or Subarus?

Speed can be subjective, we prefer to have the whole package, if you want a 3 sec 0-100 car, I'm sorry, the Rs are not for you sir. However, if you want a cornering machine with no driving aids, then perhaps that's the car for you.

 

[akuma]

but the Civic Type-R was based on a 4-door, front wheel drive passenger sedan, which means it's not developed as a true sports car from the beginning.

THIS clearly shows u DON'T KNOW wat ur talking abt!d VERY 1st Type R spirit car was d NSX-R...thn came d Integra DC2R n also it's 4door sibling,d Integra DB8R......thn came Civic EK9.....la8 on came d Civic EP3R...Integra DC5R....thn only came d Civic FD2R whc is a 4dr "sedan".(i'm not listing d FN2R coz i din like it!haahhahhah)..SO,whc part of d Type R is ACTUALLY based on a 4door platform?even if u 1na argue dat d FD2R is "based" on d garden variety FD2 Civic,u better go do ur homework coz both d chasis r totally different..go search wat Keiichi Tsuchiya said whn he 1st test drove d 4dr FD2R!

thn,came anoda statement frm u whc sounded like dis--->"Accept the fact that Type-Rs can't and can never compete with Skylines & FQ400 Evos.. "

ooo..yes,i DO accept dat Type Rs can't compete w those models becoz simpley they r in DIFFERENT class!u got buy a Skylie/FQ400s EVOs(BUT r u saying even d might NSX-R kenot compete w dis models oso?u SURE???!!!),thn u come race w my Type "Rowjak"..any discipline(drag,track,autocross,touge)...let's say u win lar..u go kompang d whole city lar...got glory meh?goodness gracious!

now i really wonder wat type of RICE u eat?can make u go high 1,is it?hahahahahhaha
all in all,yes,ur entitled 2 ur opinions..but kindly get ur facts straight.....i'm not Honda fan....but whn u twist d facts abt Type R or even d DOHC VTEC/iVTEC technology..der's whn i start 2 get pissed off coz i'm a fan of both!

cheers

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continental drifter,
wei..take note arr..u n ur GENUINE Civic Type R....d nex time ur on track whn u approach a Skyline/EVO,kindly SLOW DOWN,ok?ur NOT supposed 2 compete w them,remember?hahahahaha

subcon,
u oso same..wether ur gonna de-virginize ur GENUINE Civic Type R n finally bring it down 2 SIC or not.pls remember..DO NOT compete w Skylines/EVOs coz i know u can..kapish?hahahah

lightningfield,
eh..i think i'm gonna start charging royalty fees oredy....still using dat picture meh?dat pilot is me wei,u remember or not?so,ur GENUINE Type R Integra wanna compete w any Skylines/EVOs or not?wakakakkakakaka

 

[yurigtr]

Guys, what I actually mean is that I'm just glad that honda had found their racing spirit again after the NSX stopped production. Honda just can't compete with with other Japanese sports car maker like Nissan, Mitsu and Subaru if they only have the Type-R in their garage. Accept the fact that Type-Rs can't and can never compete with Skylines & FQ400 Evos.. Why is it that Honda fans can't accept even the slightest critisism to their beloved Honda brand.. Type-R is raw, of course it is since most of the insulation have been removed, that increases the sense of speed even more..

got me thinking... what you actually meant by "ricer"

ricer - Definition of ricer at YourDictionary.com
or it is actually this that ya trying to imply?

Rice burner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:DelsolRicer.jpg" class="image">8/86/DelsolRicer.jpg ???????

***the pic is automated from wiki, not by me. i merely "copy paste" the URL, no harm intended, sorry in advance***

not a big fans of wiki but then again, it gives you the rough idea eh?

whats wrong with "rice"? i bet everyone here will have rice in their daily diet at least once a day no ? ROFL

"Accept the fact that Type-Rs can't and can never compete with Skylines & FQ400 Evos."

NSX-R no? check some offical lap timing around the world how NSX-R (which happens to be the "Type-R"..... in fact, while ya at it, look up some other R's official timing. They may not be the fastest, but they are there on the list.

"but the Civic Type-R was based on a 4-door, front wheel drive passenger sedan, which means it's not developed as a true sports car from the beginning"

Evo and Subaru, doesnt qualify and wasnt based on a 4 doors? hmm? shall i safely assume that 2 doors chasis and non mass market based design is targeting a niche market, hence, sport cars? targeting those car enthusiast?

"After the NSX, Honda didn't really want to develop pure sports car like Nissan did with their Fairladys and Skylines. Instead, they rely too much on Integras and Civics as their most sporty lineup, which is sad.."

You are also a customer of HONDA, why not apply a job and join them, so you can perhaps change their direction? or share your valuable thoughts with them? so they wont be labelled as SAD? http://www.honda.com.my/abouthonda/contactus/
"I drive civic too (old one lah, not type r sum more )"

Mmmm.... then i think yours is safe and not a ricer....maybe porridge?congee?burbur?
whatever it is, i love both rice and porridge... they give me energy !

If you are a car lover, regardless of the make and model, you will appreciate the technology,time, effort, every car maker put in their car. No one is bashing. Just remember one thing, whatever you drive, doesnt reflect who you are. What you say does.....

Have fun! and continue ...

 

[akuma]

eh,so whr is "Mr. Type-R-no-fight vs Skyline/Subaru/Evo" liau?no more modal 2 answer back or he's still digging on d references on how Type R came abt b4 answering w more "facts" in here?
OR,better still,he's actually acquiring a Skyline/Subaru/EVO as i type so he can FINALLY show me/us dat Type R REALLY no fight w those mentioned models lar wei!damn..i gotta rush my mechanic 2 finish up my car.....let my Type R-owjak go do d talking 1st..IF i loose thn only u guys w d REAL & GENUINE Type R show 'em wat u got,ok?
ON or not?

*i'm posting dis coz it's Chap Goh Meh n I ain't got a date 2nyte,damn!*HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

 

[lightningfield]

i hope this nasi boy will come to the type-r mega meet this saturday and see how many bags of rice these type-Rs will carry. hahahaha!

 

[affiq]

errr.....sudah abis kah?

 

[g4i8y0t]

ok lorr, I surrender, hondas are the best cars in the world.. everything about type-r, vtec is superb, amazing...
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[/COLOR]everything I say also got no use because of this FANBOY mentality.. :bootyshake:

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everything I say also got no use because of this FANBOY mentality.. :bootyshake:

 

[redridinghood86]

Useless or you just prefer to ignore facts?

See la u all, ask u all to play nice u all dowan, now another Honda fan boy gone, perhaps he will sell his civic soon? :P

 

[g4i8y0t]

My civic is very old, if I wanna sell it surely have to 'timbang kilo'. It only got D16 engine with stock suspension but I must say it's actually a good car :proud:.

Actually all this started when i say the Civic Type-R is 'ricer' compared to the NSX replacement above. However, some fanboy take the word 'ricer' very seriously, coz for them the civic type-r is a very holy car according to the temple of vtec :proud:.

Cold hard facts we can only get by proving it on the track. Of course right now I can only talk so much coz I don't have any ride that can challenge your type-r. But I really wanted to get and AWD monster so badly to prove the fanboys are wrong.

But wait.. They will say different category maa.. FF/NA cannot fight la with AWD turbo, different category, not fair la wei.. Go get an FF/NA car then see who is king.. This is a very typical fanboy situation that I always encounter..

See.. get the picture? :hmmmm:

 

[affiq]

its not that these guys are fanboys or whatever u said..its just how u said it and how u got the facts wrong and how u sound like a smart ass...yeah....u got the right to say whatever u want..and these guys too...we're not saying that type rs are the fatest car in the world...the best car in the world...just that type rs deserve more respect especially from someone like u.. just another case of u should think b4 u say/type something...and...i bet that even if u got ur awd "monster"..these guys will drive all over u on track...and yes..take that as in invite...

 

[subcon]

My civic is very old, if I wanna sell it surely have to 'timbang kilo'. It only got D16 engine with stock suspension but I must say it's actually a good car :proud:.

Actually all this started when i say the Civic Type-R is 'ricer' compared to the NSX replacement above. However, some fanboy take the word 'ricer' very seriously, coz for them the civic type-r is a very holy car according to the temple of vtec :proud:.

Cold hard facts we can only get by proving it on the track. Of course right now I can only talk so much coz I don't have any ride that can challenge your type-r. But I really wanted to get and AWD monster so badly to prove the fanboys are wrong.

But wait.. They will say different category maa.. FF/NA cannot fight la with AWD turbo, different category, not fair la wei.. Go get an FF/NA car then see who is king.. This is a very typical fanboy situation that I always encounter..

See.. get the picture? :hmmmm:

After reading your opinion i only have one issue here

when you claimed civic type R (specifically FD2R) is a ricer car you should expect your statement to be rebutted by some of the type r owner here.

this is not because of the civic type R is a holy car (far from it) but it just that your opinion is utter crap.

i've used to own an EVO 7 and have driven countless of times on track and i can say i have more fun with my DC5 and FD2R. i also kena tapau a lot by DC5R when driving the EVO 7 on track but that was perhaps because of my driving skills suck.

so i hope you work hard so that you can earn enough money to buy your very own AWD turbo car. good luck!

 

[g4i8y0t]

its not that these guys are fanboys or whatever u said..its just how u said it and how u got the facts wrong and how u sound like a smart ass...yeah....u got the right to say whatever u want..and these guys too...we're not saying that type rs are the fatest car in the world...the best car in the world...just that type rs deserve more respect especially from someone like u.. just another case of u should think b4 u say/type something...and...i bet that even if u got ur awd "monster"..these guys will drive all over u on track...and yes..take that as in invite...

yeah sure, we'll see about that. talk only got no use right? one day.. maybe sepang track day perhaps.

 

[subcon]

yeah sure, we'll see about that. talk only got no use right? one day.. maybe sepang track day perhaps.

may i suggest pasir gudang track?

some of the blind corners there will separate man from boys

 

[affiq]

yeah sure, we'll see about that. talk only got no use right? one day.. maybe sepang track day perhaps.

ya....all talk no use...thats why i said...take what i said as an invite...


subcon : may i suggest pasir gudang track?

some of the blind corners there will separate man from boys


yeah..that sounds good to me...

 

[redridinghood86]

My civic is very old, if I wanna sell it surely have to 'timbang kilo'. It only got D16 engine with stock suspension but I must say it's actually a good car :proud:.

Actually all this started when i say the Civic Type-R is 'ricer' compared to the NSX replacement above. However, some fanboy take the word 'ricer' very seriously, coz for them the civic type-r is a very holy car according to the temple of vtec :proud:.

Cold hard facts we can only get by proving it on the track. Of course right now I can only talk so much coz I don't have any ride that can challenge your type-r. But I really wanted to get and AWD monster so badly to prove the fanboys are wrong.

But wait.. They will say different category maa.. FF/NA cannot fight la with AWD turbo, different category, not fair la wei.. Go get an FF/NA car then see who is king.. This is a very typical fanboy situation that I always encounter..

See.. get the picture? :hmmmm:

Then why do you choose to ignore the "have you ever wondered why people still opt for Lotus cars or MRS-es instead of all the turbocharged AWD machines?"

Lotus cars and MRS-es can never outdrag the Evos or Subarus, but they are fun to drive, 2.40s in Sepang International Circuit for a Lotus Elise is definitely achievable, maybe lower, MRS-es I have no idea, but from my experience in gymkhanas, they are fast as hell as well.

FD2Rs are pretty much the same thing, no fancy GIZMOs in the car to aid. This "NASI" car has about 184whp, a 0-100km/h sprint about 6-7 secs depending on the car and driver, nothing to shout about when compared to all the turbocharged machines, but yet it can still do a 2.40s, stock form in Sepang International Circuit despite weighing at 1290kgs, unless you don't see 2.40s as a good time. And on another note, FD2Rs recorded 1.07.8 at the Tsukuba Circuit, some said 1.07.5, is that really slow? Why not compare the time with your dream AWD cars?

 

[akuma]

Yoohoo...I'm BACK!!!!!
1st n foremost,i'd like 2 STRESS again dat I'm NO Honda fan!I only love d DOHC VTEC/iVTEC technology!period!Does dis mean I'm a FANBOY?Well,hell yeah,a DOHC VTEC/iVTEC fanboy dat is!And of course,i'm a BIG fan of d Type R spirit too!so,dis makes me a VERY HUGE FANBOY!So,of course I feel,err,how should I say it,"offended" when someone who CLEARLY knows zilch abt Type R starts writing,or specifically putting d Type R DOWN just because he chose to compare them Type Rs w Skylines/Subaruss/EVOs(heck,all my frens who owns Skylines,Subarus n EVOs all haf mutual respect 4 each other,even w Type R owners!),naturally I would come in and post some facts on my own ler.Everybody's entitle to their opinion provided they r not full of crap ler...add in sum jokes or spice is ok,right?
Ok,I'll WAIT 4 u 2 acquire ur AWD monster(buy,mod,run-in,set-up,test,etc)..go ahead!I dun own a Type R...i own a 1989 ol junk whc once in awhile can gif Type Rs a run for their money ard SIC.....so,IF u think my ol junk is up 2 ur standard,I'm in...b it SIC or PG...let's RACE!talk is cheap!
woooowweeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sapa nak tgk Orange RACE,angkat tangan!!!hahahahahahahhaha

 

[yurigtr]

My civic is very old, if I wanna sell it surely have to 'timbang kilo'. It only got D16 engine with stock suspension but I must say it's actually a good car .

No one is saying which is a better car. It seems to me that ya the only one with the thoughts here.

Actually all this started when i say the Civic Type-R is 'ricer' compared to the NSX replacement above. However, some fanboy take the word 'ricer' very seriously, coz for them the civic type-r is a very holy car according to the temple of vtec .

Wow! For once we have a mutual agreement here. But then again, it was only the "Actually all this started when i say the Civic Type-R is 'ricer' compared to the NSX replacement above." part. The rest are pretty much your own version of the WIKI ? Ricer is the opposite meaning of HOLY car now eh?

Cold hard facts we can only get by proving it on the track. Of course right now I can only talk so much coz I don't have any ride that can challenge your type-r. But I really wanted to get and AWD monster so badly to prove the fanboys are wrong.

What has ricer gotta to do with TRACK now? Maybe you didnt bother looking at the wiki link. Maybe you should? your ignorance makes ppl wonder if you know what ya saying.

"But I really wanted to get and AWD monster so badly to prove the fanboys are wrong."

so an AWD monster is not a RICER when you beat the "ricer" you often referred to here??

But wait.. They will say different category maa.. FF/NA cannot fight la with AWD turbo, different category, not fair la wei.. Go get an FF/NA car then see who is king.. This is a very typical fanboy situation that I always encounter..
See.. get the picture?

Er, Now we have drifted to FF-NA vs AWD-Turbo? eh?
wah, a strategy to divert all the attention from the word "ricer" to a statement which sounded somewhat challenging. bravo~

Could we all conclude that according to you,

RICER = NOT FAST?
FAST = NOT RICER?
AWD = NOT RICER?
NA-FF = RICER?

Or to you, all Japanese Made cars are RICER, and the CONTI are all PASTA(italian) Sausages (German).....etc....??

**i asked you for the definition of ricer, i was so unsure of it till i actually google-ed the term. Even posted the link but were not addressed by the holy you**

Now, please, if you could, explain what you meant by the term RICER?

IF AWD is not an ricer, why would the boyz in V8 holden/fords label evo/sti an ricer?
Why would some of them called the skyline GTR a ricer car? why? simply because GTR is not fulltime AWD? why would some even said honda vtec are fart cans?

OR could it be, "everything from asian countries = RICER ??"

IF your points are valid in the first place, i will happily tell you, i have a fart can, and i am happy with it, afterall, everyone farts, dont you? or you are so different, when we farts, yours are just burp from your mouth?

I am a very confused boy now, and a naive one at that. Could you please find the man in you to educate all of us BOYs here? Please, by all means, SCHOOL us, pretty please?

it is always fun and nice to see a healthy debate. How two different minds cross sword. Please do keep it coming if you're sincere. But when it is starting to sound like some sort of personal attacks/provoking with no conclusion, bah.... enjoy the rest of you days would ya ?

p/s: You could stop acting like a troll/keyboard warrior, whichever ways you wanna look at it. I suggest you to attend the upcoming MEGA Type R gathering this saturday. Have a talk with the rest of the guys here. We do wanna hear different minds and different point of views. We all are cars lover regardless of the make and model, BESIDES, we are all learning everyday. I guarantee you they are all matured thinking adult and physical confrontation will not cross their mind.



*** I love all type of cars. Unfortunately i do not have the mooolaaahhhhhh~ to own them all, by no means anyone should perceive this post as any form of bashing to any kind of cars. Am just trying to get some points and questions out to g4i8y0t****

*bows*

*ANGKAT TANGAN sambil JUMP JUMP* can see ar akuma san?