Open pod setup for Neo Campro AT

[reefdee]

thinking of doing it but i heard the mod would not increase the neo's performance bcos it's AT.. anyone would like to share your thoughts or experience on this mod?

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and a K&N induction kit looks really cool in an engine bay.. :P

 

[WPQ800]

i think a closed airbox with knn element would be better.... since urs an auto....

why?

not sure but i think it got sumtin to do with the target powerband that differs from open pod to close pod / box type....

open pods normally serve its purpose well from mid to higher revs..... so a manual ride with freedom to control gear shifts have advantage.....

close pods will give better grunt at lower end and this will benefit auto trans car....

i also think other factors that improve the breathing to a car (air filter related) would also include:
- the length, and size/diameter of the air ram
- the air pressure and speed inside the air ram
- the position of the filter (near heat source or not? near a dead-air position or not?)
- the temperature of the air (rule of thumb: the colder the better, hence CAI type or just CAI flexible pipe used will give significant feel when u floor the throttle)
- the material and filtration level of the filter (mesh wire, sponge type, cotton type, etc allow for different filtration level....some are more resistant while some are lesser)
- how dirty is the filter? even the best aftermarket filters will perform worst than factory paper type if its not clean! also another rule of thumb.....keep ou filters clean.... haha

just my 2 cents from my 2 cents experience....

 

[yeehau86]

You may consider to try the Works Engineering Carbon Charger Intake System, as it is an open pod system with a closed filter. Therefore this prevents hot air from entering into it.

 

[EvolutionZ]

this one very familiar...i sold one to campro king...hahaaa

 

[reefdee]

how bout a modded AT with piggyback doing 110whp.. would an open pod setup help improve things further? or not?

 

[XlimShady]

IMO Open pod only. Tranmission does not matter. Air intake is about the amount of air taken in for your engine's combustion. More Air (oxygen) + fuel = better combustion = more power. Full stop.
But make sure you want to suck in cold air not hot air. For neo, try to find piping that reach until somewhere in front your battery and away from your engine block and exractor.

Personally tried Redline drop in and in the end still switched to open pod. Car revs faster. Mind you that your exhaust will sound a little louder also due to more air being sucked in and higher combustion.

Result: Better power and better FC.

 

[crazykatak]

i use open pod, shielded. not a problem. heat is the issue, heat is enemy..

 

[reefdee]

which open pod air filters should i get? K&N? Pipercross? UtR? i was thinking of getting UtR cos its cheaper, looks cooler (stainless steel wire mesh) and it works.. i've used UtR, K&N and Pipercross(current) drop in filters for my neo and they fared almost the same in terms of performance.. so why go with expensive ones rite? unless you're into brand names.. =)

 

[holysniper]

ahhhhhh so many views on closed or open pod.. :(

 

[XlimShady]

which open pod air filters should i get? K&N? Pipercross? UtR? i was thinking of getting UtR cos its cheaper, looks cooler (stainless steel wire mesh) and it works.. i've used UtR, K&N and Pipercross(current) drop in filters for my neo and they fared almost the same in terms of performance.. so why go with expensive ones rite? unless you're into brand names.. =)

IMO any brand is ok. I bought my piping and filter as a set (2nd hand) from a guy. The filter is Apexi brand (replica) but works well also. If I were to change I would buy Redline, cheap and good quality. they have open pod filters also about rm140 if i'm correct.

 

[mant53]

i'd say a drop in K&N filter is better for auto... and for sure fuel consumption would be worse especially if u're right foot is naughty :P

 

[escksu]

thinking of doing it but i heard the mod would not increase the neo's performance bcos it's AT.. anyone would like to share your thoughts or experience on this mod?

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and a K&N induction kit looks really cool in an engine bay.. :P

Mine is MT but what I did is to connect a pipe from the throttle body to the fog lamp. Then install an open pod filter.

I installed 3" pipe as thats the only size I have. Low end did not suffer but high RPM did improve a little. IMHO, do not use pipe any larger than 3" or it will affect your low end torque.

 

[XlimShady]

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/members/xlimshady-albums-open-pod-picture7603-imag0191.jpg


Here's my setup..... Bought it 2nd hand from a guy who demod his satria.

 

[escksu]

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/members/xlimshady-albums-open-pod-picture7603-imag0191.jpg


Here's my setup..... Bought it 2nd hand from a guy who demod his satria.

Nice but it will be better if you can build a heat shield box for the open pod. Cause it is very near the radiator exhaust fan.

 

[holysniper]

okay just changed to an open pod with some lousy filters from my friend's old car.. throttle response better (i thought it wouldnt affect this).. engine feels 'livelier', willing to rev.

but mine is 2 pipes joined together, not a single pipe. The pipe is damn hot! anyway to insulate it? The workshop actually recommended me get carbon air intake (something like works' design) as they using plastic flexi pipe so as to not conduct heat (claim that it is same or even better than open pod) But I wanted to try open pod.. haha.

 

[reefdee]

xlimshady.. how much did you buy yours? looks good.. only missing i guess would be a box for the filter so hot air wont come near it.. what escksu says is true..

holysniper.. u could try wrapping the piping like what xlimshady did.. use thermal wrap.. worth a shot..

 

[neobard]

guys,
waht about aerospeed open pod performance compare to works engineering and K&N?

 

[XlimShady]

xlimshady.. how much did you buy yours? looks good.. only missing i guess would be a box for the filter so hot air wont come near it.. what escksu says is true..

holysniper.. u could try wrapping the piping like what xlimshady did.. use thermal wrap.. worth a shot..

Yup, I know..... maybe after this when I buy a new filter i'll find those that have those heat protective casing. But for now so far so good, bought the whole thing for 250 only. FC is very good. about 6.0 on highway if I cruise around 90-100km/h

 

[neobard]

guys,
i'd changed my mind. i think i will go for works engineering carbon fibre air intake system.... even R3 neo also use the similar type......i think this type is better than normal open pod type in order to prevent hot air.... what say you??

 

[mADmAN]

guys,
i'd changed my mind. i think i will go for works engineering carbon fibre air intake system.... even R3 neo also use the similar type......i think this type is better than normal open pod type in order to prevent hot air.... what say you??

i say ur wasting ur money....if the thing wasnt carbon fiber it would definitely be much cheaper and then itll prolly be worth it... imho, ur practically paying for the CF...not the gains. and in my view.. an open pod in a closed enclosure = drop in. defeats the purpose of an "open" pod. they should call it a closed pod instead. open pod imho is false marketing

as for R3 neo... tell me one car manufaturer that actually uses open pod. even Ferrari uses an airbox for their ITBs... ITBs u know....and still have an airbox....car manufacturers will also have to think about reliability.. and an airbox minimizes particles getting to the filter. minimizes chances of warranty claims etc

and if u wanna say that race cars use airbox/drop in... go find out the regulations of the races that they enter... alot of races requires the cars to use an airbox as a regulation....so those cars are not using the airbox by choice...

in my view... to say that this car or that car uses an airbox or this and that race car uses airbox so it must be good/better than open pod is null n void.

my vote goes for open pod + heatshield any day....except if the car is an auto....

theres a reason why auto benefits more from drop in and manuals benefit more from open pod...i cant remember exactly why....n too lazy to be searching