Bad experience with tires shop at Prima Saujana Kajang

[john_unai]

d shop use pukat tunda ma, all fish oso sapu in one shot.:captain:

 

[vr2turbo]

Water fish...
Kena hook at the mouth baru tau they fall for the bait and got in trouble

Must get them to sign up to ZTH......

There were a few members who did mention they join the forum ask questions first then go search for tyres....

There were some who pm to me also.......

 

[joev8796]

2 years ageing is quite normal.
the tyre itself can shelf around 3 years at tyre shop.

a freshly made tyre is not suitable 2 be used immed, it shud hav at least few months time 2 wait till da tyre compound got stable. if not da handling wil b affected.

da best is at least 4 months from da production date stated on da tyre 2 b installed.

 

[vr2turbo]

2 years ageing is quite normal.
the tyre itself can shelf around 3 years at tyre shop.

a freshly made tyre is not suitable 2 be used immed, it shud hav at least few months time 2 wait till da tyre compound got stable. if not da handling wil b affected.

da best is at least 4 months from da production date stated on da tyre 2 b installed.

But why buy a tyre that is already 2 to 3 years old. An average user will take another 3 years to wear them off, by then tyres will be 6 years old. Our weather here is too hot and tyre rubber will harden degrading their traction ability...
Have not found any thing on new tyres needing time to age before usage. If there are any issues then Manufacturers have to hold their tyres in their warehouse for a couple of months before selling them...

 

[stupidcar]

But why buy a tyre that is already 2 to 3 years old. An average user will take another 3 years to wear them off, by then tyres will be 6 years old. Our weather here is too hot and tyre rubber will harden degrading their traction ability...
Have not found any thing on new tyres needing time to age before usage. If there are any issues then Manufacturers have to hold their tyres in their warehouse for a couple of months before selling them...

Vr2 sifu, how to check the type of rubber compound? As in soft/hard?

 

[Izso]

But why buy a tyre that is already 2 to 3 years old. An average user will take another 3 years to wear them off, by then tyres will be 6 years old. Our weather here is too hot and tyre rubber will harden degrading their traction ability...
Have not found any thing on new tyres needing time to age before usage. If there are any issues then Manufacturers have to hold their tyres in their warehouse for a couple of months before selling them...

Yeah the old days new tyres worked better after storing them for 3 months or so. The catalyzer needed time to vulcanize the rubber. Or was it the vulcanization process took that long? Uh.. either way it was long. These days the catalyzer used works much quicker and takes days instead of months. Tyres that are released from factories are those that have already vulcanized so no need to worry about fresh tyres.

Goodyear and some other tyre brands develop the type of rubber compound used based on the countries conditions. Goodyears Eagle F1 from KL won't be the same tyre as the one used in Japan even though the thread design is the same. Some people are fond of imported tyres and claim the world on how good it is. But in reality, that's not entirely true and is probably a placebo since they are more expensive.

Some companies use a neutral compound that applies to all countries like Yokohama's Neovas range of tyres. Regardless of which country, they are all the same. F*cking unbelievably good tyres.

 

[vr2turbo]

Yeah the old days new tyres worked better after storing them for 3 months or so. The catalyzer needed time to vulcanize the rubber. Or was it the vulcanization process took that long? Uh.. either way it was long. These days the catalyzer used works much quicker and takes days instead of months. Tyres that are released from factories are those that have already vulcanized so no need to worry about fresh tyres.

Goodyear and some other tyre brands develop the type of rubber compound used based on the countries conditions. Goodyears Eagle F1 from KL won't be the same tyre as the one used in Japan even though the thread design is the same. Some people are fond of imported tyres and claim the world on how good it is. But in reality, that's not entirely true and is probably a placebo since they are more expensive.

Some companies use a neutral compound that applies to all countries like Yokohama's Neovas range of tyres. Regardless of which country, they are all the same. F*cking unbelievably good tyres.

The F1 Asy2 are all from Germany. Asy1 got 2 sizes from China factory. F1 D5 from Thailand.
I have used the earlier F1 GS-D3 from Germany (first batch when launched) they were really great compared to the ones later from Thailand factory....

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Vr2 sifu, how to check the type of rubber compound? As in soft/hard?

Brother no way to check the rubber compound. Some mistaken the soft tyres with soft sidewall as soft compound but that is not it. Just that the sidewall have been constructed softer.

For me soft compound are generally associated with UHP tyres, means the top range tyres like GY Asy2, Michelin PS3, Conti CSC range and so on.
Another way to look at it, is they usually come in larger block pattern. Soft compound cannot be in small blocks or have sipes in them. This will cause them to become too soft.
Tyre pattern with plenty of sipes (small cut lines) usually are those of hard compound. Sipes are to soften them. These can be seen in most tyres like GY NCT5, Conti CC1, BS AR-10, Yoko A-Drive and so on

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

Must get them to sign up to ZTH......

There were a few members who did mention they join the forum ask questions first then go search for tyres....

There were some who pm to me also.......

You odd to charge them consultation fees as extra income

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The F1 Asy2 are all from Germany. Asy1 got 2 sizes from China factory. F1 D5 from Thailand.
I have used the earlier F1 GS-D3 from Germany (first batch when launched) they were really great compared to the ones later from Thailand factory....

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Brother no way to check the rubber compound. Some mistaken the soft tyres with soft sidewall as soft compound but that is not it. Just that the sidewall have been constructed softer.

For me soft compound are generally associated with UHP tyres, means the top range tyres like GY Asy2, Michelin PS3, Conti CSC range and so on.
Another way to look at it, is they usually come in larger block pattern. Soft compound cannot be in small blocks or have sipes in them. This will cause them to become too soft.
Tyre pattern with plenty of sipes (small cut lines) usually are those of hard compound. Sipes are to soften them. These can be seen in most tyres like GY NCT5, Conti CC1, BS AR-10, Yoko A-Drive and so on

Something for us to know what part is what part and what is sipes

http://www.rowleys.com/images/informational/TireConstruction.jpg

So tyres without sipes is soft compound tyres

 

[vr2turbo]

You odd to charge them consultation fees as extra income

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Something for us to know what part is what part and what is sipes

http://www.rowleys.com/images/informational/TireConstruction.jpg

So tyres without sipes is soft compound tyres

Cannot lah! still helping out as in the forum....

Larger blocks. Small Blocks not considered as the still can flex. Either that or Asy pattern without sipes also....This is my observation comparing the UHP tyres pattern and entry level....