What's the next car you'll buy?

[vr2turbo]

Just check online site...even 2016 is selling well below 50k.
2014 is below 40k.

if u dont mind future resale value, get 2014 as u can still get below 60k mileage.
u want newer but more or less the same mileage then go for 2016.

Wow! during the 1st Gen Wira days, resale value damn good......lol

 

[gunnerzz]

Wow! during the 1st Gen Wira days, resale value damn good......lol

good for us...soo many good car at very low price.

 

[vr2turbo]

good for us...soo many good car at very low price.

With more car brands and models, prices will go down.....

 

[gunnerzz]

Sharing,
i am looking for a car to replace my 2 ride for about 1 month and narrowed down to
1.Exora bold
2.Pajero sport
My wife stressed on space but myself still appreciate good road manner and if possible a 4x4.

Looking to buy 2nd as i no longer a believer of newer car is superb compared to 2nd hand car.

Since there is no Pajero sport available in Melaka i widen my search area and found 1 in Segamat...1 thing let me down...the leather seat is too dirty.

I switch to Exora bold and went to see a few. Well they are plentiful at cheap price:
1.2014 red colour...too bad its sold when i asked.
2.2014 light brown/gold colour....very rough engine and the interior doesnt smell right.
3.2012 dark bronze colour...i like this colour. Engine sound smoother but something is not right...the exterior is too clean. Detail check reveal the front bunper is replaced and the car has been repainted. there is paint overspray everywhere (absorber mounting, wheel arch). Whats worst is the used car guy said 'never accident before'...
4.2013 white colour, mileage less than 70k km. Yes the car has been in a collision but minor, the used car guy admits it and can be seen from the scar it has. another minis is the reverse camera is blurred.I test drives this one and its better than my sis Exora bold....hmm this could be the one for me. A strong plus point is the number is same with my EX5 number. I went thru the figure and the guy willing to buy my 1.8 Waja.

I was about to settle for the white one before 2 days ago the finance minister/final approval gate mentioned 'we can go for other car as long as it can fit her goods'. This will be the temporary car while waiting for the VGT pajero sport to drop its price more. I jumped with joy and yesterday we go and see a Suprima S.

Its like new on the inside..leather has no wear at all, even the driver seat only has very minimal line. mileage is 52k km.
Will this be my new temporary ride...we will see.

Above all, its a safer car compared with my BLM and Waja.

Now i know why most Malaysian prefer new car;
1.They want 'gaya, mutu, keunggulan'.
2.They dont know how to 'search' for used car.
3.They dont know how to check used car.
4.Its a hassle to search and go see, and do this repeatedly.

p/s : with clean piece of paper...even the inspira 1.8 manual comes into the picture...hahaha.

 

[ixeo]

Sharing,
i am looking for a car to replace my 2 ride for about 1 month and narrowed down to
1.Exora bold
2.Pajero sport
My wife stressed on space but myself still appreciate good road manner and if possible a 4x4.

Now i know why most Malaysian prefer new car;
1.They want 'gaya, mutu, keunggulan'.
2.They dont know how to 'search' for used car.
3.They dont know how to check used car.
4.Its a hassle to search and go see, and do this repeatedly.

p/s : with clean piece of paper...even the inspira 1.8 manual comes into the picture...hahaha.

Actually for Exora Bold, you can even go see auction units if you have the time to shop. And if possible buy direct from the owner, rather than used car dealers.

I find Exora CFE damn amusing

This video even funnier, can hear the VTEC open yet cannot catch up

Note: Video is linked for entertainment purposes only

 

[gunnerzz]

ixeo,
my experience with the bold is as u mentioned...amusing.
Its a misbehaving people carrier and most of the drivers whom drove them behave in a naughty manner. They dont road bully but they makes other driver angry...its those 'wtf' moment we often watch on youtube where unsuspecting car driver either could not keep up or shake this pesky people mover of their tail. I did read somewhere that the throttle mapping of the bold is more agressive compared to the Preve. Test drive both back to back and u will notice the bold is more eager pouncing forward where the preve is more civilised. i wont be exagerating if i said this mpv puts grin on the driver face.

All is well for the bold except that it does not come with ESC, more airbag, traction control (only later model has it but just 4 airbag).earlier model have lower leather seat quality.

i might still choose the exora but we will se. too many choice out there...

 

[ixeo]

ixeo,
my experience with the bold is as u mentioned...amusing.
Its a misbehaving people carrier and most of the drivers whom drove them behave in a naughty manner. They dont road bully but they makes other driver angry...its those 'wtf' moment we often watch on youtube where unsuspecting car driver either could not keep up or shake this pesky people mover of their tail. I did read somewhere that the throttle mapping of the bold is more agressive compared to the Preve. Test drive both back to back and u will notice the bold is more eager pouncing forward where the preve is more civilised. i wont be exagerating if i said this mpv puts grin on the driver face.

All is well for the bold except that it does not come with ESC, more airbag, traction control (only later model has it but just 4 airbag).earlier model have lower leather seat quality.

i might still choose the exora but we will se. too many choice out there...

Yeah, so I think the Exora IS a good buy if you want a budget fun people mover, only thing is FC higher than Alza. I believe its able to do what it does because of its gearing ratio. Because top speed is all about the gearing with sufficient power.

If for own use buy Exora, if you wanna be Grab go get Alza lol.

 

[Izso]

ixeo,
my experience with the bold is as u mentioned...amusing.
Its a misbehaving people carrier and most of the drivers whom drove them behave in a naughty manner. They dont road bully but they makes other driver angry...its those 'wtf' moment we often watch on youtube where unsuspecting car driver either could not keep up or shake this pesky people mover of their tail. I did read somewhere that the throttle mapping of the bold is more agressive compared to the Preve. Test drive both back to back and u will notice the bold is more eager pouncing forward where the preve is more civilised. i wont be exagerating if i said this mpv puts grin on the driver face.

All is well for the bold except that it does not come with ESC, more airbag, traction control (only later model has it but just 4 airbag).earlier model have lower leather seat quality.

i might still choose the exora but we will se. too many choice out there...

I got a friend who had a lemon of an Exora CFE. He had the dashboard removed twice, gearbox replaced once, engine god-knows what done a hundred times all within the warranty period. Shortly after warranty finished he traded it in for a Toyota Camry.

Just make sure you double triple check yeah. Cuz it sounds like an expensive gamble

 

[ixeo]

I got a friend who had a lemon of an Exora CFE. He had the dashboard removed twice, gearbox replaced once, engine god-knows what done a hundred times all within the warranty period. Shortly after warranty finished he traded it in for a Toyota Camry.

Just make sure you double triple check yeah. Cuz it sounds like an expensive gamble

Not just Exora CFE, any Proton has huge potential of being a lemon.

 

[gunnerzz]

I got a friend who had a lemon of an Exora CFE. He had the dashboard removed twice, gearbox replaced once, engine god-knows what done a hundred times all within the warranty period. Shortly after warranty finished he traded it in for a Toyota Camry.

Just make sure you double triple check yeah. Cuz it sounds like an expensive gamble

With the CVT gb, most whom encounter gb problem are those sticking with the recommended CVT OCI.The cvt oil (blue in colour ) will turn dark black at about 40k km.it looks like used engine oil.

On the suprima s....u guys think one day it will become sought after like the Arena or Putra?

 

[ixeo]

With the CVT gb, most whom encounter gb problem are those sticking with the recommended CVT OCI.The cvt oil (blue in colour ) will turn dark black at about 40k km.it looks like used engine oil.

On the suprima s....u guys think one day it will become sought after like the Arena or Putra?

Nope. Confirm won’t. Arena is due to its practicality. Urban contractors love it because they don’t have to use a pick up.

Putra is because it’s actually a Mitsubishi. Very tuneable chassis with huge following.

Suprima is lol. I never understood why did it have to be so heavy. It’s really let down by the CVT.

 

[alcyon]

Yeah, so I think the Exora IS a good buy if you want a budget fun people mover, only thing is FC higher than Alza. I believe its able to do what it does because of its gearing ratio. Because top speed is all about the gearing with sufficient power.

If for own use buy Exora, if you wanna be Grab go get Alza lol.

Do you mean that the exora places its engine rpm on the higher end compared to alza at the same speed in top gear ?

 

[ixeo]

Do you mean that the exora places its engine rpm on the higher end compared to alza at the same speed in top gear ?

Actually I can't find their gear ratios anywhere, but its a logical explanation.

More like they have longer gear ratios than Alza, so that at any given speed, the Exora engine is at a lower RPM, and because the Exora is turbocharged it has a lot more torque at lower RPM versus the Alza -- which allows them to gear it longer.

 

[gunnerzz]

Actually I can't find their gear ratios anywhere, but its a logical explanation.

More like they have longer gear ratios than Alza, so that at any given speed, the Exora engine is at a lower RPM, and because the Exora is turbocharged it has a lot more torque at lower RPM versus the Alza -- which allows them to gear it longer.

If i recall correctly, there is only min ratio and max ratio for cvt.no in between. let me see if i can find it in the manual.

on the Suprima, if i decided to go with it...is there any way i can override the function where it disable the dvd player when i put the gear to D?

 

[ixeo]

If i recall correctly, there is only min ratio and max ratio for cvt.no in between. let me see if i can find it in the manual.

on the Suprima, if i decided to go with it...is there any way i can override the function where it disable the dvd player when i put the gear to D?

Got, throw the stock dvd player out and put a China player in.

 

[gunnerzz]

Got, throw the stock dvd player out and put a China player in.

u r....if u come to my place i will ensure u are tied to the rambutan tree with kerengga for 20min before i let u enter..hahaha.

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

u r....if u come to my place i will ensure u are tied to the rambutan tree with kerengga for 20min before i let u enter..hahaha.

seriously...anybody use dvd player now? mehhh...

got plenty of china awesomely good 2din android powered HU with fully loaded function nowadays cheap2..

u name it...
gps
dvr
reverse
wifi
4g
bt definately
playstore fully function
which lead to obd2 display capable

and so many more like any android phone/tablet can do....

 

[ixeo]

u r....if u come to my place i will ensure u are tied to the rambutan tree with kerengga for 20min before i let u enter..hahaha.

Want meh. 50 shades of rambutan ah? Sorry la you’re not my type. Don’t sad ok.

 

[gunnerzz]

Want meh. 50 shades of rambutan ah? Sorry la you’re not my type. Don’t sad ok.

CVT ratio for exora.
Min 0.46
Max 2.55
Final 5.76

If using SAT / CPS manual
1st 2.42 / 3.583
2nd 1.28 / 1.947
3rd 0.90 / 1.379
4th 0.70 / 1.03
5th 0.55 / 0.767
6th 0.46

Just if anyone interested...reverse is 2.55.
SAT is useless...so far my experience using SAT is jerky and it never shifts at the desired rpm. Imagine a normal auto 6 speeder with CVT behaviour.

 

[vr2turbo]

If i recall correctly, there is only min ratio and max ratio for cvt.no in between. let me see if i can find it in the manual.

on the Suprima, if i decided to go with it...is there any way i can override the function where it disable the dvd player when i put the gear to D?

There is always a way to override it. I know most of them just need an earth wire, some need to disconnect one wire. The function is there to stop driver watching DVD while driving.......lol