Petrol car or diesel car (2nd hand)

[Izso]

How abt hybrid?
A used Jazz hybriz any good?

If you're not used to driving hybrid the battery regen will be a nuisance. And the braking feel is absolutely rubbish with the brake regen also. I personally hate older hybrids. The newer ones though have improved a lot on these items but I still dislike them. I drove the Jazz hybrid to Ulu Yam and back and I was sooooo tired after a day of driving it. It's bumpy, it's slow and heavy and the brake/coasting batt regen made me want to puke everytime. It was so hard to drive smooth.

My forester actually gives the best mileage, because CVT, but highways only. It's heavy so for town, stop go traffic pretty heavy FC. Then of course VR, driving VR really never think of FC.......hahhahaha

Well, only car that can get good FC in jam situation is the hybrids.

bro, this is ZTH (Zero To Hundred). These folks only aim how to achieve that 0-100 goal... performance... performance... and enjoy driving... FC not in picture. LoL

Not really la. I am a stickler for FC but I also want a good driving feel.

 

[DNGFashion]

reading all your insights gave me a wake up call. I guess I will stick to my current ride until I have the finance for a ride which I fall in love again and again.

 

[parakey]

reading all your insights gave me a wake up call. I guess I will stick to my current ride until I have the finance for a ride which I fall in love again and again.

Does that mean you are no longer that hung up on FC anymore?

 

[vr2turbo]

bro, this is ZTH (Zero To Hundred). These folks only aim how to achieve that 0-100 goal... performance... performance... and enjoy driving... FC not in picture. LoL

hahhahhahahahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahhahaa..........................

 

[sweelt]

My forester actually gives the best mileage, because CVT, but highways only. It's heavy so for town, stop go traffic pretty heavy FC. Then of course VR, driving VR really never think of FC.......hahhahaha

booost....VR
FC, what FC ? hahaha....

 

[gunnerzz]

reading all your insights gave me a wake up call. I guess I will stick to my current ride until I have the finance for a ride which I fall in love again and again.

Hihihi...i would luv to see that day.
I bet u will own at least 2 ride with totally opposite character and die2 said u loved them both. Even when u said its rubbish, u will still keep driving it.

 

[DNGFashion]

Does that mean you are no longer that hung up on FC anymore?

I am in a perpetual dislike relationship with my current ride. While I dont want to fall into this snarl again, It doesn't feel good at all now!!

Hihihi...i would luv to see that day.
I bet u will own at least 2 ride with totally opposite character and die2 said u loved them both. Even when u said its rubbish, u will still keep driving it.

I hope so too. This will transpire when i have the finance for it.

 

[DNGFashion]

Not really la. I am a stickler for FC but I also want a good driving feel.

Getting this sort of ride is challenging when conti can only offer such.

 

[parakey]

I am in a perpetual dislike relationship with my current ride. While I dont want to fall into this snarl again, It doesn't feel good at all now!!

I thought Iriz has good handling. Why do you dislike it? CVT? Poor NVH?

 

[gunnerzz]

I thought Iriz has good handling. Why do you dislike it? CVT? Poor NVH?

Thats the love-hate relationship he is experiencing. Later if or when he get a cushy car he will miss the solid ride of the Iriz..heheheh

 

[parakey]

Thats the love-hate relationship he is experiencing. Later if or when he get a cushy car he will miss the solid ride of the Iriz..heheheh

Yup, he likely wont like an older Vios or City. Unsure how much the new Vios has improved. Havent rode one yet

 

[vr2turbo]

Hihihi...i would luv to see that day.
I bet u will own at least 2 ride with totally opposite character and die2 said u loved them both. Even when u said its rubbish, u will still keep driving it.

That is why I have a comfortable family ride for my wife, then another opposite ride for my own......lol

 

[DNGFashion]

I thought Iriz has good handling. Why do you dislike it? CVT? Poor NVH?

1) I love the firm suspension, but it is too stiff - bouncing and body motion everywhere. I wonder if proton has performed pre-loading adjustment on the stock suspension. Body roll is present even with aftermarket anti roll bar installed. If one takes corners like a champion over rumble strips and expansion gaps of the highway, be prepared to have it skip a few beat and sometimes having its rear coming out slightly.

2) I hate the side mirrors because they have huge blind spots.

3) Rubber band effect of the CVT. It poses a threat when you want to overtake or exit a junction.

4) Total cost of ownership including service maintenance and parts replacement doesn't reflect the status of a local car for the masses.

However, only my passengers love it because of its rear seats that have good thigh support and headrests.

 

[parakey]

1) I love the firm suspension, but it is too stiff - bouncing and body motion everywhere. I wonder if proton has performed pre-loading adjustment on the stock suspension. Body roll is present even with aftermarket anti roll bar installed. If one takes corners like a champion over rumble strips and expansion gaps of the highway, be prepared to have it skip a few beat and sometimes having its rear coming out slightly..

It's odd if stock is skipping. Did you change the springs or is it caused by your aftermarket ARBs?

 

[gunnerzz]

It's odd if stock is skipping. Did you change the springs or is it caused by your aftermarket ARBs?

He is going too fast.
same thing happened to my blm when it was equipped with rear arb and still on stock susoension.

 

[parakey]

He is going too fast.
same thing happened to my blm when it was equipped with rear arb and still on stock susoension.

So you're saying it's simply understeer?

 

[gunnerzz]

So you're saying it's simply understeer?

Rear end hopping.

 

[parakey]

Rear end hopping.

Sorry, I dont quite understand why the rear should hop when he isnt braking

 

[DNGFashion]

with or without ARB, it is the same. Well it isn't that fast as per say (less or equal 50km/h) for long turns. So that's why i reserve my judgement on good handling of the car.

 

[parakey]

with or without ARB, it is the same. Well it isn't that fast as per say (less or equal 50km/h) for long turns. So that's why i reserve my judgement on good handling of the car.

I never driven the Iriz before but hear it has good handling. Have you driven other car makes/models? Is Vios/City/MyVi better for you? Or just the Contis which are better?