B-series OEM Oil Cooler. Is there 1?

[SA6YEuro]

Honda brothers, have u wondered if there is a oil cooler attached 2 ur block? Coz I dun seem 2 hav 1?

I know all Type Rs hav 1.... Wat about the rest? B16A1,2,3 n B18C1,2,3,4.......

Care 2 share..... 4 those tt r not sure wat i m talkin about.... heres a pic highlighted....

 

[akuma]

AFAIK,
d DA6 integras were d very 1st DOHC VTEC equipped cars 2 get d so-called oil cooler..its merely an adapter on d water running pipe whr ur oil filter will now b attached...so d running water will actually cool down d oil....not very effective but heck,better thn none.....n yes,my B16A1 has it....

note:-but sum sed dat is actually not an oil cooler...its actually an oil HEATER coz according 2 them,d running water is actually HOT,hence it'll heat up d engine oil but dis r actually meant 4 winter state models.....any1 heard abt dis b4?

 

[shiroitenshi]

That's an oil cooler? I thought it's the one with a small cooling coil mounted up front?

Hmm.. or are you talking about the black canister thingy, which is a sort of breather case?

Edit: After reading akuma's post.. hmm.. oh.. that's an oil cooler? (O_o)

 

[crower75]

That's an oil cooler? I thought it's the one with a small cooling coil mounted up front?

.........same here...... :confused_smile:

 

[hattech-v]

i think if thats not oil cooler, then its oil heater....

 

[akuma]

well,generally,der r 2 skool of thinking abt dis thinggy...
1 say its an oil COOLER.
d other party say its an oil HEATER.
n AFAIK,dis thinggy comes std in d DA6 B16A1 n also Type Rs.....
come 2 think abt it...if it comes std in a Type R,i think it shud b n oil COOLER,right?

 

[SA6YEuro]

akuma, wat u said does make sense but in the manuals it is referred as an oil cooler. Till 2day the Type-Rs r fitted with it... obviously it does its job.... kinda weird huh?

guys, juz 2 share... in most manuals on the b16a, they call tt particular part/piece the oil cooler unlike those in the turbos.... external 1s r not recommended coz oil press will drop drastically esp without an upgraded oil pump! Wanna hear wat a constipated Vtec opening sound like? hehe.. i did....

the actual problem tt i m facing is tt i got myself a Sard sandwich oil block hoping 2 tap sensors in2 it.... but once i screw it in all the way, it will not go in all the way! the thread fr the engine block seems 2 long..... the oil block is left sort of dangling..... arghhh!!!

the funny thing if juz the oil filter by itself fits in perfectly....tts y my assumption could b the oil cooler is missing..... mine is a b16a1 fr the 1991 da6....

 

[user6]

If so...I would want to change my engine to DA6s engine..eheiheihe
Anybody intrested in swapping engine ka??hiehiehe...

Confirm o not they got in the R`s engine?All the R Bseries engines is it?

 

[SA6YEuro]

so far i hav done a few conversions wif my mech, the b18c5 n the b16b so far has a oil cooler.....

the pic u c attached is actually a b16a1 fr the EF9....

 

[user6]

Hmm...any differences in performance wise?With and without oil cooler?
But wat i know 16a1 is rated only 160hp..n 16a2 is 170hp?Heheheh...how?

p/s: dont flame me wit my silly question..eheihieh ;P

 

[SA6YEuro]

bro, the power is not really relevant coz the big diff between the a1 n a2 is the cams n pistons..... not forgettin ecu mapping..... theres where the 10hp comes fr...

but in basic physics, heat n friction reduces power n efficiency rite? honestly nobody really knows wat were the honda engineers thinkin....

 

[akuma]

if u ask me,i'd retain this oem oil cooler frm Honda coz my mentality is,if it aint working,d honda boys won put it der....i did face some trouble locating d steel pipe dat connects 2 d oil cooler as most B16A2 doenst come w it..so kedai potong is a hassle..in d end i ordered new..cant remember how much....n yeah,those external oil coolers..tot of having em oso but did hear abt oil pressure drop cases,so i'm still holding back....n i din know d B16A1 in d EF9s came w it oso.....
n yes,i believe all B-series Type Rs has it......

160ps vs 170ps?easily overcome w a chg of cams.....but did u know dat d B16A1's head haf sum slight advantage?sum1 told me it'll create a small combuston chamber,hence higher CR..any1 wanna measure dis?

note:i'm keeping my B16A1 w d oil cooler+my EF7 radiator(as big as d DA6's)..can whack til kingdom come in track!hehehehehe

 

[cekau]

I dun think its an oil cooler laa .. as far as I bumped into b16a oil cooler its front mounted like intercooler ..

thats is an oil catch tank .. hehehehe

 

[akuma]

cekau,
WEH!!!ko idup lagi yeah??HAHAHAHHAAHA.lama tala nampak(as a matter of fact,mmg i x penah nampak/jumpa u pun?!ahahhaha)......
oil catch tank?meh,i catchkan ur tank?hehehheheheh............
n any front mounted oil cooler found attached 2 any B16A must b aftermarket item...coz AFAIK,Honda did not make them standard...its not even on their optional parts/acc list....

 

[cekau]

still alive and kicking laa .. hahaha

its a standard oct for b16 if me not mistaken .. me also newbie here .. coz, for oen time last week, I ask my mech for clean it up for me when he took out my steering rack .. its oily alrite coz and it traps oil .. hahahaha

 

[SA6YEuro]

OCT?? hehehe....

heres somethin 2 shed some light on whether its true in the 1st place.... taken fr a ef8 manual....

 

[shiroitenshi]

OCT?? hehehe....

heres somethin 2 shed some light on whether its true in the 1st place.... taken fr a ef8 manual....

Woah.. bound with a key ring folder.. did you like... print out the ENTIRE thing?

 

[hattech-v]

i got all u need for the oil cooler conversion then, the steel piping, the sandwich but not with oil filter... hehe

 

[user6]

Wahhh...SA6,where did u get tat manual?Can I have a copy..ehiehiehie
Now I`m 66% into tat oil cooler thingy...guys,can tat be installed to 16a2 engine? I mean,direct swap it?Hiehiheihe...Any immediate results?

Mie...u never lepas any peluang yea?Go Go avantech ranger!Ehheheie

 

[crower75]

if u ask me,i'd retain this oem oil cooler frm Honda coz my mentality is,if it aint working,d honda boys won put it der....i did face some trouble locating d steel pipe dat connects 2 d oil cooler as most B16A2 doenst come w it..so kedai potong is a hassle..in d end i ordered new..cant remember how much....n yeah,those external oil coolers..tot of having em oso but did hear abt oil pressure drop cases,so i'm still holding back....n i din know d B16A1 in d EF9s came w it oso.....
n yes,i believe all B-series Type Rs has it......

160ps vs 170ps?easily overcome w a chg of cams.....but did u know dat d B16A1's head haf sum slight advantage?sum1 told me it'll create a small combuston chamber,hence higher CR..any1 wanna measure dis?

note:i'm keeping my B16A1 w d oil cooler+my EF7 radiator(as big as d DA6's)..can whack til kingdom come in track!hehehehehe

yes mastaaahhh.....ahaks :shades_smile: