Need Advise on oil additive. tufoil? X1R? lubguard? SLICK50?

[karl5511]

Yes, tappet is really annoying. I just changed engine oil, Eneos 10-40 with oil treatment dont know what brand, as recommended by mechanic, and it helps me to extremely reduce my tappet sound. Out of budget yet to bring for hydraulic lifter servicing.

 

[Northiswara]

i keep on thinking and thinking why this oil additive really so good kah?
their main ingredient is PTFE. if it is so good then why dont the oil company use it in their oil? particularly the main reason would be the PTFE will coat your engine parts and it will not be easy to remove it. and oil company main objective in making engine oil is to make an oil that can drain out all dirt without sticking/coating to the engine parts.

 

[zamree7]

oic........
good for u lorr.............
but does this X1R makes ur engine run smoother?? and save your petrol?

i notice that my engine run smoother and cooler now.. about Fuel Consumption.. still didn't notice any improvement.. maybe need to pour more fuel treatment as my car is 10years old car..:hmmmm:

i got my fren use the same Fuel treatment on his Gen-2 and it proven to save petrol..

Stock from Proton : 6.9L/100km
After 1 year : 7.8L/100km
After use X1R Fuel Treatment: 7.0L/100km

the fuel consumption slightly reduce after using the X1R Fuel treatment..

 

[Northiswara]

only improve 0.8l per 100 km. little only lerr................
after deduct the price of X1R its almost the same larr...........
hehe.............

 

[satria_95]

northiswara,
I am using a stock satria 1.6 single cam, fuel injection 16valve. Hope that's enough information. haha Anyway, I have been using it thus far, it seems to be alright. However, I'll admit that it didn't really help me save any fuel or I didn't notice any difference in fuel consumption. :)

 

[zamree7]

only improve 0.8l per 100 km. little only lerr................
after deduct the price of X1R its almost the same larr...........
hehe.............

nope...the fuel treatment only cost you RM28.. we are not using it everytime we refuel, just use in once to clean our fuel injector, remove water, etc.. so our car can become stock again...

let say my fren use almost 6000km per month.. because his job need him to travel al ot.. then u can calculate how much he can save every month just by spending RM28.. then after u notice the fuel consumption increase again then pour the fuel treatment again ler..

 

[Northiswara]

zamree,
u talking about fuel treatment or oil treatment? kind of blur here. hehe..........

 

[GT_AUTO]

i think he's talking about fuel system cleaner.

 

[zamree7]

zamree,
u talking about fuel treatment or oil treatment? kind of blur here. hehe..........

owh.. sorry to make u blur.. im saying this for X1R Fuel Treatment not X1R engine oil treatment...hehe

if using X1R Engine treatment i didn't notice any improvement in term of fuel consumption.. just notice that my engine run smoother and cooler..

 

[DareDan]

so...conclusion....tufoil or X1R or Lubiguard?
which is better and affordable?

 

[tofu_manic]

my 2 sen opinion is that if u have the extra money to use these things, might as well spend it on a better quality, synthetic oil for your engine, tested, proven, and will never cause problems unless u exceed service cycle...

i have read many articles on these kinda snake oil and short term, yeah u may feel some differences but long-term wise, it forms sludge...

not speaking about tufoil in particular la but ive read about others...

so u decide hehe

 

[Northiswara]

daredan,

i also have this question. which 1 better?

from my opinion,

tufoil and X1R are made from PTFE which a lot of expert says it is bad thing.
lubeguard is made from liquid wax which they claim is better than PTFE.
u can find lubeguard seller in zth.

from what i heard around zth forum tufoil is better than x1r. but got some people say use oil additive dont give u much difference. so again i think better for us to buy 1 bottle and test ourself. hehe.............

 

[Northiswara]

zamree,

u meant X1r fuel treatment really works?
i was using STP fuel treatment. after u pour in u can notice ur car got extra power. the next time u refuel then the extra power gone so i dont think that is a fuel treatment, that is fuel boaster lerr............
so u really mean this x1r can helps in fuel consumption after use it then u refuel and refuel the effect is still there?
if like this i think i will use it.

 

[Northiswara]

tofumanic,

i agree with u. engine oil is design not to leave anything behind the engine when u rinse it. while this snake oil is actually leaving the PTFE things that will coat the engine parts. when this ptfe coat ur engine parts, it will aslo coat the dirt with it to the engine parts which is not good.
if this ptfe is so good why there is no engine oil company willing to use it in their product?
some say use engine oil + oil treatment give u same feel as using fully synthetic oil. migth just use syntecthic oil even thoug the price is higher a bit. for long term....................
just my 2 cents......

 

[tofu_manic]

yeap, fyi ive used x-1r b4...no difference...

according to the bottle, ideally it shud be used when changing oil during servicing, if really it is done like this, then how can we differentiate whether the smoothness or etc etc is due to the car service, fresh oil or the x-1r?

bijak those ppl...try to fool others...

 

[DareDan]

ok..than everytime we change the engine oil than we will have to add this snake oil to it rite? so if we dont wan to continue using it than how? just leave it like this or we need to wash it out?

 

[Northiswara]

dont to use then u just rinse ur oil out lorr.
u want u can flush ur engine with flush oil to clean ur engine lorr.
i scared this snake oil will coat the sensor in engine and make the sensor reading not accurate then ur engine behave crazy lorr. hehe........

 

[zamree7]

Northiswara, from my experience with X1R Fuel Treatment(not engine oil Treatment) its really work as i wrote before..we use it only once or maybe depend on engine.. like me 10th years old car pour 1 bottle still same or maybe reduce abit.. but for my fren Gen2 only pour 1 bottle then the FC reduce to stock FC(new car).. my fren gen2 now can go 450-500km for RM50 only.. my car putra only can go 300km or less for that price.. huhu

and about oil engine treatment, this is ma 1st time use oil addictive so dunno how's the performance for Lubgard or Tufoil engine oil treatment.. so far after using this X1R my car still not going crazy..haha. dunno later if it going crazy then i'll flush my engine ler...fyi im using this X1R engine oil treatment not into new engine oil but just topup to my engine while my engine still have 4000km before change oil..so i can see n feel the difference once using it for now..

 

[Northiswara]

i think old car no need pour in so many thing cozs canot save it already. too late. haha............. i think i just leave it stock larr. wait til 1 day got $$ dismantle the whole engine and wash all the parts inside and change all wear and tear parts.
or else i just hook in SR20VE with 190bhp. hehe..........

 

[satria_95]

northiswara,
I ain't too sure about how effective this is but this is one way I read up on how to 'clean' the engine internals nicely. This is the step.

1) Buy lots of engine flush and engine oil.

2) Pour in engine flush and let the engine run for about 10 - 15 minutes. Then, release dirty oil + engine flush out.

3) Repeat step 2 until engine oil that is released out is totally clean as if it's new oil.

4) Fill in required engine oil and close the engine oil cap. DONE.

However, some people use cheap engine oil and engine flush to flush over and over again. Once the engine oil that is released out is clean, then only they put in good engine oil and cover up the engine oil cap.

The thing I am wondering is whether if I do the flush thing for 4-5 times, will the flush corrode the internals or not. Feel like trying it this weekend as I want to give my engine internals a good clean up.

Another method is to go for decarbonizing. Maybe you can check out the link below.

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/engine-and-performance/103931-rm41-let-s-decarbonizing-your-engine-with-d-carbo.html