Install Oil cooler

[AE75]

Installing a Oil cooler on 4AG engine, what thing need to do and take extra caution?
I believe the oil press will decrease but what is the correct Oil pressure could be?

 

[j_l200s]

currently my pressure without oil cooler is ~1.7 bar @ ~90 deg C (idling). If i'm not mistaken, majority cars are below 2 bar pressure during idling. i think don't go below 1.5 bar... not sure after installing oil cooler. hopefully won't drop below 1.5 bar. just my 2 cents. maybe some other sifus can tell their experience.

different viscosity of oil and the type of oil filter gives u different pressure reading oso. ~1.8 bar that time was using 10-40. currently using 5-30 gives me pressure ~1.6 bar.

 

[FGT]

probably it wont affect coz u will only need to add a little bit more oil to fill the extra space made by the hoses + cooler :)

 

[SE.G]

probably it wont affect coz u will only need to add a little bit more oil to fill the extra space made by the hoses + cooler :)

agreed,being using it for the past 2 years no problem at all

 

[ajik8953]

wat's the different between oil cooler,oil relocater and oil catch tank...

 

[0501024]

oil cooler cools the oil, oil catch is to capture excess oil spilling out?

 

[vh-101]

oil cooler cools the oil, oil catch is to capture excess oil spilling out?

Yes and relocator let you re-locate your oil filter at your desired place.

 

[AE75]

Yes and relocator let you re-locate your oil filter at your desired place.

Re-locate got another function.. It is can add in a oil cooler together with relocate the oil filter.


I'm worry about oil pressure, because I'm going to use a 16 rows big oil cooler.

 

[FGT]

Re-locate got another function.. It is can add in a oil cooler together with relocate the oil filter.

I'm worry about oil pressure, because I'm going to use a 16 rows big oil cooler.

Isnt that kind of big for a 1.6 engine? Did u buy brand new? If brand new, u can follow the manufacturer's spec. If it's from chop shop, get those from similar capacity engines just to be safe..

 

[AE75]

Isnt that kind of big for a 1.6 engine? Did u buy brand new? If brand new, u can follow the manufacturer's spec. If it's from chop shop, get those from similar capacity engines just to be safe..

I brought the cooler from chop shop... it come from track car 4AGTE.

 

[nappx]

wanna share my experiance installing Oil Cooler.

this one is based on used item (buy from one ZTH forumer) item including, i believe the stuff is GREDDY/GREX Oil Relocated Kit. When i see the stuff, the system is OIL ELEMENT MOVABLE ATTACHMENT TYPE. (Refer to pix below)

ok, when buy the thing...it look nice averything, just some part got oil stain. then wash it make it like fresh..free from oil. when fit it..fill with oil..start the engine and run for minutes...

start from here you all should know...(i assume we all layman..zero knowledge)
1. the oil filter not hot..(that mean the oil flow to oil cooler radiator then go to oil cooler) this not right..suppose the oil flow from engine to oil filter & flow to radiator & back to engine) why it happen...wrong fix direction flow..that is small matter..but guy please aware

2. after all rectify...start engine and run accordingly...the found the hose got leak...dammmm...(NOTE: when buy used stuff please check on eye view, but sure can find because the pressure not there yet) so open back & lucky got used steel braided hose spare in workshop) after all rectify...than go back home (work finish at 2.00a.m)

3. tomorrow morning, when go to work - just tarik a bit..suddenly the engine smell burning...shit..saw the smoke come out from bonnet..give emergancy light..park at road side...immediately open the bonnet....shitttt...got fire in the middle of extractor (that time no fire extinguisher in car...damm until now also don't have) don't panic..lucky..small fire only..use mouth to blow the fire & lucky fire stop)...all engine bay splash with oil..dammmm...

call mech..half & hour he come from salak sauth to berkly klang..come with YAMAHA LC & toolbox..then after see it..lucky..not the block pecah..but the adapter not tight (i know the adapter tighten before, cause i was there see the installation)

then he remove the adapter & put the oil filter to original place...buy petronas oil for temporay...from barkley to salak sauth..

evening i go to workshop & see why it happen, what cause it..the issue is the nut to fit the adapter to block already expend (it may cause by always open/closed regularly) so the solution..custom it...after fit with new screw..fill with oil again..test run kaw2...until today no problem & hope no problem in future also....

the moral is:-
1. if got budget buy new...alvin@tom's got new item..he he promo..promo..
2. check or change the hose (the total cost..better i buy new from alvin just RM200 diffreant)
3. ensure all connection item in good & oil flow also in correct position..

oppsss...before that i did not install any oil press meter (as indication) it VERY-VERY-VERY IMPORTANT to have this thing...at the same day i buy new set from sunway..he he he and make sure you all take special care on the sensor..please handle with care...

OK for oil pressure..i also ask from sifu TOKLAH & KALUI..(to compare the pressure) the reult like this...idling (2-2.8) bar (hot) W.O.T (3-5.8) bar. from my observation..idling time lowest 1.8 bar - 2.00 bar.. WOT can go to 5.8 bar..

hope this can help u...

 

[j_l200s]

OK for oil pressure..i also ask from sifu TOKLAH & KALUI..(to compare the pressure) the reult like this...idling (2-2.8) bar (hot) W.O.T (3-5.8) bar. from my observation..idling time lowest 1.8 bar - 2.00 bar.. WOT can go to 5.8 bar..

Yup, my WOT is also at 5.7-5.8 bar. 2-2.8 bar during hot. how hot is your hot? u got oil temp gauge? i have less than 2 bar when oil temp is at 90-95 deg C.

50-60 deg C is around 2.5 bar. after that the pressure slowly drops until 1.7 bar after the oil gets hotter and hotter. maybe i should get an oil cooler soon. during hot weather/traffic jam/climb hill road slowly, my oil temp is around 100-110 deg C. not so good IMO. shouldn't be more than 100 deg C. can kiss goodbye to your engine oil if it hits 120 deg C and above.

 

[nappx]

for oil temp no monitoring device yet..to look into it...

 

[AE75]

Nappx, great experience was shared, and very appreciate ur info too.

 

[ajik8953]

how about engine temperature...which bar does it show..

i've feel wen engine temp is drop till C bar...can feel the engine run very smooth...dis all without Oil Cooler or any device...running stock...hehe...

 

[t-la]

temp dont use bar, it tells degree Celsius. it can be 80-150 degree

 

[zmays]

i guess ajik mean C bar is the C indicator at the water temp meter..

 

[ajik8953]

i guess ajik mean C bar is the C indicator at the water temp meter..

yup,thanks zmays...as i dun hv any device to monitor oil temp..just use dat water temp to monitor my engine...hehe...

 

[yloon]

currently my pressure without oil cooler is ~1.7 bar @ ~90 deg C (idling). If i'm not mistaken, majority cars are below 2 bar pressure during idling. i think don't go below 1.5 bar... not sure after installing oil cooler. hopefully won't drop below 1.5 bar. just my 2 cents. maybe some other sifus can tell their experience.

different viscosity of oil and the type of oil filter gives u different pressure reading oso. ~1.8 bar that time was using 10-40. currently using 5-30 gives me pressure ~1.6 bar.

j_l200s,
you got oil pressure gauge? my OEM Blacktop dont have this woh, is it important or a must to fix this? But i keep my car original lar. use original oil filter and castrol magnetic 10w40 oil, not sure enuf or not lar..

btw, is it advisable for us to use 5w30 on 4AGE? :p

 

[lkeong88]

w30 oil seems to cause some grinding noise when you rev?