Accident : Police Report?

[myviowner]

Hi, I wonder if this is the appropriate section or even the right forum to post this. Need some help from those with experience in accident cases.

Are all accidents even a very minor one need to be reported? I had a minor accident this morning while turning into another lane and this car knocked my rear bumper (on bumper corner). The driver said forget it. So, should I report or not? If don't, what if he eventually go to make a police report?

Only scratches found on both cars. Am I at fault in the eyes of law? Because my friends told me the car who knock ppl's back is always at fault. Please advise.

 

[mini clubman DF9818]

if the another driver said forget it then is ok la......
make report is just for those who need to claim their insurance......
if in the same lane ppl who knock ur rear is his fault....but at above u say u turning into another line n then ppl knock u is ur fault.......coz ppl is in their lane n u juz going into ppl lane.........

 

[BluecluBBy]

The law is that whoever who's front bumper is behind the car other are at fault no matter how you drive..fast or not
logically the person driving behind must see any object which is in front and should keep a distance.
All accident report must be made within 24Hrs to be valid.
If the opponent made a police report and you don't even though he's in the wrong you will be fined RM300.
Please check with the police whether that this accident has been filed or not.

 

[mini clubman DF9818]

The law is that whoever who's front bumper is behind the car other are at fault no matter how you drive..fast or not
logically the person driving behind must see any object which is in front and should keep a distance.
All accident report must be made within 24Hrs to be valid.
If the opponent made a police report and you don't even though he's in the wrong you will be fined RM300.
Please check with the police whether that this accident has been filed or not.

Bro,

yes u r right tat "whoever who's front bumper is behind the car other are at fault no matter how you drive..fast or not" but tis is juz valid when both car is in the same lane.....

now our dude situation is he is change into another lane n ppl hit his rear bumper, so according to the law is our dude fault....u will get a saman tat "gagal memberi laluan semasa menukar lorong jalan"

"If the opponent made a police report and you don't even though he's in the wrong you will be fined RM300".........tis is oso depends on the situation....if it is serious case then u will be fined.....but now our dude's accident is very minor n another ppl tat avoid in the accident oso settle d......

so all will be fine dude........

 

[drMpower]

if he said 'just forget it'. then it is okay. there is no worry about he's going to do police report or not. he definitely wont be reporting anything.

but, if you got into accident, and both of u want to report, then the police will charge some hundred RM - charging both for unresponsible drivers - before proceeding to find who's fault it is.

but, in ur case, definitely u dont have to worry.

 

[huakenny]

but, if you got into accident, and both of u want to report, then the police will charge some hundred RM - charging both for unresponsible drivers - before proceeding to find who's fault it is.

nothing to pay la..traffic officer will just issue a summon to the fault driver...RM300 for tat summon. after less is RM200.

report police only if u canot settle on the spot or need to claim insurance.


my2cent

 

[LuKa]

The law is that whoever who's front bumper is behind the car other are at fault no matter how you drive..fast or not
logically the person driving behind must see any object which is in front and should keep a distance.
All accident report must be made within 24Hrs to be valid.
If the opponent made a police report and you don't even though he's in the wrong you will be fined RM300.
Please check with the police whether that this accident has been filed or not.

yes indeed.. but, if u switch lane without proper signaling n without proper distance from the car at the back.. its ur fault.. the person driving behind can n have the rights to ask the police officers to investigate(usually,dont have to ask,the police will compare the statement given by both drivers).. the police will run somesort of a simulation test... measure distance n speed n take photos of how the impact happened n etc to decide,to see whether who's really at fault..

there are also other scenario of hitting the back, n its not the back persons fault..
e.g. When u approach a roundabout.. have u ever experience almost hitting a bike upon entering it.. which u thought wasnt even there b4 while ur so bz 'TAKING CARE OF THE VEHICLE ON UR RIGHT'? is it ur fault?

 

[drMpower]

aaaa???

nothing to pay la..traffic officer will just issue a summon to the fault driver...RM300 for tat summon. after less is RM200.

report police only if u canot settle on the spot or need to claim insurance.


my2cent

my friend, which currently sitting beside me, got into this thing early this year.

what happen was that, his Avanza got hit at the back by one Indian guy. They wanted to settle things outside balai, but the Indian fella wanted to pay only very small money. something like RM 80-100. of course my friend said not enough (he is a nice guy, dont want to extra charge, but to repair the damaged bumper only)

then they went to Parit Buntar Polis Station, and one very nice polisman said if they insist of reporting to them (police), then he had to charge both of them some money for being irresponsible road users. That policeman gave my friend and the Indian some time to sort out/ think.

So, they settled things out of balai.

 

[myviowner]

After compiling all the info from friends. Few points to consider / discuss :-

1. Our friend in blue uniform will only carry out investigation for fatal accident / serious injury. So many accidents happen in a day, quite an impossible task to do that sort of simulation for every case.

2. Some drivers even at fault, will make a false report saying people knocked from the back. Even though they changed lane and got hit from behind. The car behind with the "right of way" will be summoned innocently. Unless they have a witness or engaged an attorney to protest. What's your thought over this?

3. "Right of way" is really confused. Does that mean any "samseng" out there can purposely accelerate and bang your car for a revenge or something just because they have "right of way" (Even when you know there's a safe distance to change lane).

4. If couldn't decide which side at fault, both side will be fined RM150 each. How true is this?

The above are just word of mouth from others, I will not be responsible for any wrong information. I end up does not report because it was a really minor minor one.

 

[BluecluBBy]

You're right on the no 1: matter

no:2 This is what i'm trying to say, there's no car from behind has a "right of way"
this is what defensive driving is all about. the person who is at the back always at fault- trust me... i been through this case. Police will tell you to get a lawyer to sue if you're not satisfied, but first you got to pay the summon

no3: as stated above - situation is they don't care what had actually happened...the person who bang is at fault.
If don't believe me, please go ask the traffic officer.

no:4 police will take sometime for the report to come out then they would issue the summon RM300 to the person at fault.
if even you are in the right but without making a report within 24hrs, you'll be the one to pay if the other party did make a report.

my advice is just go to the nearest police station to check if any report has been made by the other party.

just my little advice, people here please don't get offended by it although logically you think you're in the right but this is reality which i encountered

 

[LuKa]

well i have happen to met with sum police officers that have moral n ethics when it comes to an accident.. n dont just blinly follow the book...

 

[gogogo]

no matter u r right or wrong, making a report after 24 hours i sure u will receive a saman from police.
i been through this b4. few year ago (can't recall when), when i driving a car waiting for my turn to cross a roundabout (near subang taylor) suddenly hitting by a kancil from back. after nego and the driver promise to pay. we decide to goto my workshop at sunway tomorro.
after estimate by workshop (+-800 - 1000) together with the driver, he said need some time 2 get fun, and never show him self later.
have no choice to report later (maybe after 1 week), and get a saman for RM 300.00 just for being so kind and trustful.
the most worst is, to get the "keputusan" from the police (sarjan) needed to pay "Yam Chai" if no ............ Slow Slow and wait lah.......................
this is only part of my story for this cases.

 

[satria_95]

myviowner,
You shoulda reversed your car harder after he bang you and break your rear bumper. Then get him to pay you for the damages or you'll report police, where he'll get even more trouble. Else, ask him to buy you a Toyota passo bumper. hahaha

 

[mini clubman DF9818]

this is what defensive driving is all about. the person who is at the back always at fault- trust me... i been through this case. Police will tell you to get a lawyer to sue if you're not satisfied, but first you got to pay the summon

no3: as stated above - situation is they don't care what had actually happened...the person who bang is at fault.
If don't believe me, please go ask the traffic officer.

ok i will go to ask the traffic officer......but im working in a claim workshop so many reports i hv read b4 n so many type of accident tat i get fr the reports.......so who is the right n is the wrong i think i no need to talk anymore....juz refer to my previous post..........hahahaha

 

[myviowner]

Something really UNFAIR happened today.

Similar case, but in a totally different side. This morning, being on the two lane main road, one careless driver suddenly drive into my way and I knocked his rear corner bumper.

My front whole part got badly damage. So I had to stay at the scene for extra long time while calling a tow car. The other party with slight damage went to make a police report before me.

Guess what happen when I was making the report? Our blue uniform friend told me they have snapped the scene and analyzed that it was MY fault. Wanted me to signed on the report that they have made themselves and compounded me. I believe something "fishy" happens in there! Everything like has been "setup" to put the blame on me.

I have nothing else to stay, really. Perhaps living in a wrong country?

*** I use "I" in this scenario for the ease-of-understanding. It actually happened to my brother who is quite ignorance about accident and just signed blindly on the police report. I was thinking even if he does not sign it, we can't change the situation around and our case might have to be dragged for months / if not forever. Sad case.

Disclaimer : All that I have said in the forum might not be the actual situation. Please do not take it seriously and I could be wrong. (To protect my butt, just incase).

 

[satria_95]

myviowner,
Your brother need not sign the whatever they want him to sign. Instead, get a copy of what they want you to sign and a copy of whatever reports that's been made to you. Then seek legal advice from a lawyer or something. Of course, make your report and tell the truth in it. Meaning, just write in your report that the bastard swerved into your lane or whatever. Once a signature is on it, then it's gone case. Unless it's some bullshit signature hahaha

 

[b00n]

Don't sign...
we have the right not to sign...
Last time my GF car was knocked at the side by an on-coming car at a traffic light junction where the traffic light is faulty.

She went to report the case; I wasn't back in KL yet. After that 2nd day, the sergeant in charged called and said that it's my GF's fault. we were like pissed....!
the most they can say is nobody faults as the traffic light is out of order!! why must it be our fault??

So we decided to go take evidence ourself. With camera, we took the pics and video to proof that the traffic light is faulty. And show it to the stupid sergeant who had claimed that they did the investigation and found my GF guilty.

Lucky my gf didn't signed the compound earlier as I advise her against signing it via phone. So the tables are turned and the police has to admit that they are wrong. Than pity the other guy as that night, the other party is also required to meet up at the station to explain and "discuss". Since he didn't show up, the sergeant just issued a report saying the guy is wrong and we can claim his insurance....

BRAVO TO THE M'SIAN POLICE FORCE!!

 

[khairiaz]

Hi, I wonder if this is the appropriate section or even the right forum to post this. Need some help from those with experience in accident cases.

Are all accidents even a very minor one need to be reported? I had a minor accident this morning while turning into another lane and this car knocked my rear bumper (on bumper corner). The driver said forget it. So, should I report or not? If don't, what if he eventually go to make a police report?

Only scratches found on both cars. Am I at fault in the eyes of law? Because my friends told me the car who knock ppl's back is always at fault. Please advise.

After an accident, all you wanna do is to repair the damages, right?. in your case, it is only minor damage. then, it has to be decided who is at fault. Once both parties agreed who is at fault, then it is up to the fault party to decide whether to repair with his own money or thru insurance claim. If he decides to repair his car and even your car with his money, then, from my past experience, there is no need to file a police report. however, if he wants to claim his insurance to repair his car and your car, then a police report is required. and if your car is damage as well and you want to repair his car using his insurance, then a police report is required as well.

Regarding your question, anybody who knocks the rear of the car infront of his car, all the time is his fault (the car who knocks). reason - because he have options to brake or avoid the car infront of him. However, it still depends la on how the accident happened. case-by-case basis.

 

[sakuraguy]

Hi, I wonder if this is the appropriate section or even the right forum to post this. Need some help from those with experience in accident cases.

Are all accidents even a very minor one need to be reported? I had a minor accident this morning while turning into another lane and this car knocked my rear bumper (on bumper corner). The driver said forget it. So, should I report or not? If don't, what if he eventually go to make a police report?

Only scratches found on both cars. Am I at fault in the eyes of law? Because my friends told me the car who knock ppl's back is always at fault. Please advise.

At first glance, next step after involved in accident, straightaway to lodge report since we're still alive. If die then nvm lorr ... no need report ;)

The rules say so, so dont ever ignore it. If tried to settle on the spot. Make it reasonable and fast. Always keep and eye on the B-party. If he / she said no need, but still he / she go n report the opposite way, ure in trouble.

Just a suggestion from me .. :)

Cheers!

 

[candy tong]

I have a crash which is similar. The other driver crash my car when I'm changing lane. Her car front side (left) hit my right side door (passenger).will I get summon in this case?