Breaking news!! Got cheated at mudah

[Veloc]

It's friends like yours that fuel conmen to do what they do. Educate your friend and bash his head against the wall to make him realise his stupidity. Stupidity and greed makes these conmen thrive.

Yup....got to agree on that facts. But often when a person gets fueled by excitement over the offer and gets carried away in the jolly, they would lose their judgment and [FONT=&quot]sensibility over to such offers treat....and sometimes when given [/FONT][FONT=&quot]cautionary [/FONT][FONT=&quot]advices by a friend on the deal made, it only will fall on deaf ears....until they realized that they had been conned dryly....[/FONT]

Sorry I didn't make it clearer. He is a "former" friend now. One day I advised him something and he was unhappy about it. Similar advice. I asked him to double check on a certain pricing. He got mad about it, throw tantrum at me, and never contacted me again. F him.

 

[Sea Dragon]

I was myself conned by these internet tricksters/conman one time. But then learnt my lesson and till now, have successfully traded (buying and selling) online for years now. As the saying goes, sometimes things sound "too good to be true" and they are. But people being people, (i was once that) will always fall into the trap. And as somebody had said earlier, it is these people that actually fuel the scams/cons.

The police (they say) are overwhelmed by these cases. Just read/watch/hear the news daily. Almost everyday, people are still being scammed by the scratch and win syndicates, get rich quick schemes, African black-money and a lot more other scams and cons. For me now, even the "electro-static miracle machine" Al-j****r is a scam but still there are people who believe that the machine is a cure-all and can even heal AIDS. The police cant be bothered because it involves a small amount of money and a small number of people. Think about the RM250m scam?

Website admins/controller also will not do much. As much as they say they want to protect your rights and will go all out to make sure it is safe for you to trade online, there are only so much you can do. I tried reporting and warn Ebay & Lelong.com of the fraudster who scammed me but they replied there is nothing wrong with the add and unless I had proof it was a fraudulent posting, they cant take the ad down. I sent them all the emails between me and the fraudster, bank account number, even a link to an article linking the account number to the trickster. But no action was taken.

That is why nowadays, I trade using safetrade"lelong.com" or buyer protection program "paypal/ebay". Any seller or buyer that doesn't want to take this extra step, I dont deal with. It is my choice. It is my money or my product. It's up to me to decide.

It all boils down to the individual. YOU as a buyer. "Caveat emptor" goes the latin saying. Buyers beware!!!

 

[gaza]

ive been conned once few year ago.i make a police report.few days after report, i been inform by police oficer they got the suspect.unfortunately the suspect also been conned.actually the suspect is a drug addict.he been paid by the real conman to open new bank acc with atm card & register new prepaid no.

 

[IketaniX]

my friend just being cheated when buying headlight through Mudah.my...
the advertisement is stated Depo brand,
but end up receiving an no-brand made-in-taiwan headlight,
furthermore there's no hole for the small light to be inserted...

plan to bring it to Tribunal Court,
any suggestion??
every taiko please advice,
Tq.

 

[gaza]

my friend just being cheated when buying headlight through Mudah.my...
the advertisement is stated Depo brand,
but end up receiving an no-brand made-in-taiwan headlight,
furthermore there's no hole for the small light to be inserted...

plan to bring it to Tribunal Court,
any suggestion??
every taiko please advice,
Tq.

sure can bro if your freind has a receipt as a proof.but bare in mind,for cheap item its not woth it.you have to take a leave.have to go to court several time.it takes a very long time waiting for a small settlement if you are lucky.wasting time,wasting petrol.im sorry if im wrong,its just my opinion.

 

[Sea Dragon]

Read a post by Danz Eterna here:

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newfor...s-a-robbed-from-a-workshop-in-aman-suria.html

After that read his post about how his car was wrecked by a mechanic and the process he went through to get his money back. 35 pages of informative reading.

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/car-modification/328020-my-experience-in-workshop.html

I think the TTPM is a good idea as there is not much of a hassle and cost much less compared to the Courts. You should take action as it is your right....

 

[IketaniX]

the seller didnt issue a receipt but my friend still keeps the bank-in slip,
can it still acts as strong evidence as receipt?

currently what i help my friend is to
save the ad from Mudah.my (which clearly stated Depo brand in the ad),
save the bank-in slip in pc format,
take a few pics to show the defect of the lamp (no small lamp hole & not Depo brand)

any advice what's more he'll need as dont want see my friend to loss RM400+ for such bullshit dealer...
he saves up for quite some times to make up his car and end up a big disappointment...

personally i talk to the seller through phone as well to try solving the prob yet the seller wants to force us to "eat dead cat" (cantonese) as we are in JB not KL...

i'm kind of burning when i heard his attitude to the prob,
no wish to solve at all...

 

[Veloc]

Those police... Honestly, let's think. Have they any use? Let me share my experience here. I got conned last time at mudah. Not much, RM 65 only. I kept the receipt and the seller's phone and all. I made a police report and pass all the evidence. You know how my case was handled?

It was passed among a few police until the right department "Commercial crime". The sarjan just gave me bullshit. Our conversation:

Sarjan: "we can't do anything. We are in kk. The seller is in KL. We do nto have budget to fly there and nab the guy. Last time we do have. But not anymore".

Me: Do you need to go KL for cases like these? I got all the details. Phone no. Bank in slip. you guys don't coordinate with police in KL?

Sarjan: They so busy. So many cases everyday. They won't be free to take case like this la... Just take it as a lesson la...

Me: ... (in my mind: Damn these people to hell. Get paid but don't want to help the rakyat?)

Honestly, if they want to do something, they can. I got all the details. But it is a few of these irresponsible bastards that tarnish the entire image of PDRM.

For me, it's not the money. I won;t die because of RM65. But I do not want to let conman like these loose. And If I feel I didn't do something, I will jsut pass the problem to others in the future.

 

[IketaniX]

that's y i advice my friend go for Tribunal Court not the police...
they just try to do less things everyday by asking ppl to give up...

my friend already done online e-filling and see how it goes...
being friend so try to find more 'bullets' for future hearing if there's...

do agree with you that in some cases is not the money issue but just cant swallow the anger...
the seller sounds like want to cheat u at the very 1st place...
i'm not the victim yet i can feel my friend's anger...

 

[Izso]

Veloc, well that dumbass ex-friend of yours doesn't deserve your friendship if they don't appreciate friendly advice that'll save him hard earned money.

 

[Sea Dragon]

Veloc: Same as my case when I was conned in Ebay for RM2K. Almost the same conversation with the police officers handling the case. Learnt my lesson and now extra careful when dealing online. How stupid of me at that time....

 

[DanzEterna]

Those police... Honestly, let's think. Have they any use? Let me share my experience here. I got conned last time at mudah. Not much, RM 65 only. I kept the receipt and the seller's phone and all. I made a police report and pass all the evidence. You know how my case was handled?

It was passed among a few police until the right department "Commercial crime". The sarjan just gave me bullshit. Our conversation:

Sarjan: "we can't do anything. We are in kk. The seller is in KL. We do nto have budget to fly there and nab the guy. Last time we do have. But not anymore".

Me: Do you need to go KL for cases like these? I got all the details. Phone no. Bank in slip. you guys don't coordinate with police in KL?

Sarjan: They so busy. So many cases everyday. They won't be free to take case like this la... Just take it as a lesson la...

Me: ... (in my mind: Damn these people to hell. Get paid but don't want to help the rakyat?)

Honestly, if they want to do something, they can. I got all the details. But it is a few of these irresponsible bastards that tarnish the entire image of PDRM.

For me, it's not the money. I won;t die because of RM65. But I do not want to let conman like these loose. And If I feel I didn't do something, I will jsut pass the problem to others in the future.

its normal bro..........by right like wat u said, they supposed to coordinate or pass the case to KL branch.......if me ah, id report to his higher superior....

 

[Veloc]

Veloc: Same as my case when I was conned in Ebay for RM2K. Almost the same conversation with the police officers handling the case. Learnt my lesson and now extra careful when dealing online. How stupid of me at that time....

Wow 2k sakit already man... Well, let's just learn and move on... Great mistakes make great stories... We just have to think that way

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its normal bro..........by right like wat u said, they supposed to coordinate or pass the case to KL branch.......if me ah, id report to his higher superior....

Haiz... I don't really know what or how to do anymore that time. how do I see their superior? Even if I request taakan they let me meet the superior like that? Workers already like that, I figured out that it's no use seeing the superior, although I really want to that time.

 

[bLACKjAC]

Those police... Honestly, let's think. Have they any use? Let me share my experience here. I got conned last time at mudah. Not much, RM 65 only. I kept the receipt and the seller's phone and all. I made a police report and pass all the evidence. You know how my case was handled?

It was passed among a few police until the right department "Commercial crime". The sarjan just gave me bullshit. Our conversation:

Sarjan: "we can't do anything. We are in kk. The seller is in KL. We do nto have budget to fly there and nab the guy. Last time we do have. But not anymore".

Me: Do you need to go KL for cases like these? I got all the details. Phone no. Bank in slip. you guys don't coordinate with police in KL?

Sarjan: They so busy. So many cases everyday. They won't be free to take case like this la... Just take it as a lesson la...

Me: ... (in my mind: Damn these people to hell. Get paid but don't want to help the rakyat?)

Honestly, if they want to do something, they can. I got all the details. But it is a few of these irresponsible bastards that tarnish the entire image of PDRM.

For me, it's not the money. I won;t die because of RM65. But I do not want to let conman like these loose. And If I feel I didn't do something, I will jsut pass the problem to others in the future.

No budget?? I agree. Last year i went to Serdang Balai, the sarjan was using Satu Malaysia finger to type (using typewriter-very old one) the report:sleep:

 

[Veloc]

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[boi]

Those police... Honestly, let's think. Have they any use? Let me share my experience here. I got conned last time at mudah. Not much, RM 65 only. I kept the receipt and the seller's phone and all. I made a police report and pass all the evidence. You know how my case was handled?

It was passed among a few police until the right department "Commercial crime". The sarjan just gave me bullshit. Our conversation:

Sarjan: "we can't do anything. We are in kk. The seller is in KL. We do nto have budget to fly there and nab the guy. Last time we do have. But not anymore".

Me: Do you need to go KL for cases like these? I got all the details. Phone no. Bank in slip. you guys don't coordinate with police in KL?

Sarjan: They so busy. So many cases everyday. They won't be free to take case like this la... Just take it as a lesson la...

Me: ... (in my mind: Damn these people to hell. Get paid but don't want to help the rakyat?)

Honestly, if they want to do something, they can. I got all the details. But it is a few of these irresponsible bastards that tarnish the entire image of PDRM.

For me, it's not the money. I won;t die because of RM65. But I do not want to let conman like these loose. And If I feel I didn't do something, I will jsut pass the problem to others in the future.

this is the example of the causes why the scammers / fraud case is increasing dramaticly nowadays...some more they show up their stupidity & ton of lazy attitude...if they smart they can take action just for 5-10% of the report, take legal action and publish at media about what punishment deserve for the scammers...i think this will help a lot to reduce the number of this fcuker...

but we also cant blame them at all coz most of the con cases is more to buyers mistake...careless, excited & put trust on people they didnt know...for the cases that u at the right side yes u can push them and maybe can colaborate with them to settle down the case...

my simple advice for those out there please control your excitement, be patient and do research form google 1st before u decide the online deal mostly from Mudah...most of the cheap add actually u can think logicly either the price stated is reasonable or not...coz most of the con case is related to very cheapo pricing item...

even me also to many time already stepped into the con add but luckily most of the time i can smell the fishy earlier...be carefull guys out there...

 

[DanzEterna]

No budget?? I agree. Last year i went to Serdang Balai, the sarjan was using Satu Malaysia finger to type (using typewriter-very old one) the report:sleep:

thats y if i see they use the 1 malaysia finger, i told them i will type myself....:rolleyes:

 

[teo1957]

Online scams increasing in Selangor

BY A. RUBAN


SHAH ALAM: Online shopping scams have increased by almost 50% in Selangor, state Commercial Crimes Investigation Department deputy chief Supt Ng Keok Chai said on Wednesday.
He said that there were 445 such cases in 2011 compared to 247 in 2010.
“Such cases frequently occurred in websites like www.Lelong.com and mudah.my, with the money deposited into the seller's account being channelled into some other person's bank account,” he told reporters during a walkabout here.
Supt Ng, however, added that there has been a drop in the total number of commercial crime cases in the state.


http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/3/28/nation/20120328120238&sec=nation

Your friendly-neighbourhood police giving a press conference: money deposited into SELLER's account being channelled into other person's account?

The BUYER? Go lock yourself in room cry alone...

 

[adlans]

Your friendly-neighbourhood police giving a press conference: money deposited into SELLER's account being channelled into other person's account?

The BUYER? Go lock yourself in room cry alone...

These criminal normally uses drug addict/junkie/desperado needed money person accounts as one of their ways to hide their identity. They will be given a portion of that transaction to them.

 

[Veloc]

These criminal normally uses drug addict/junkie/desperado needed money person accounts as one of their ways to hide their identity. They will be given a portion of that transaction to them.

This is the usual case. LAst time the guy who scammed me also used a bank account different form his name. Because of this, that useless sarjan keep using this point to say that "we can't do anything even more because of this. Because the account holder is not wrong". Fk that sarjan. Really cannot do anything? They can just contact the person and ask who took the money out from his/her account.