last time my car optimum on 1.8 piping, after PNP my machanic ask me remove center muffler to get more power...but I too cleaver go to upgrade to 2" piping....torque on low end suffer more (by default, PNP already cause low end lesser torque), from mid to top also marginally gain after uprade...maybe my car 1.3 the 2" too big..oh ya...my exhaust gas after PNP is more than any 1.5 wira....so my opinion 1.8 inch enuf for engine below 1500cc....oh ya...my ex engine not only PNP but with high cam also...so depend on ur car mod....