how to solve gear lag prob for campro?

[lkc]

just install lighten crank pulley for my car today,the feel is great and the acceleration feels light and pick up also okay,bro i remember one of my friend install high cam before on his proton wira,after install he say the rpm idling not stable,up down up down and i dun really know what is the problem,just heard frm him b4 quite some time,what is nasty Port Flow port & polish anyway?

 

[LittleWhiteWagon]

just install lighten crank pulley for my car today,the feel is great and the acceleration feels light and pick up also okay,bro i remember one of my friend install high cam before on his proton wira,after install he say the rpm idling not stable,up down up down and i dun really know what is the problem,just heard frm him b4 quite some time,what is nasty Port Flow port & polish anyway?

Nasty Port Flow = Shop that does port and polish.

Port and polish = Well porting the engine's ports and smoothening them I guess, haha . Quick 'n' easy explanation

 

[nurburing]

just install lighten crank pulley for my car today,the feel is great and the acceleration feels light and pick up also okay,bro i remember one of my friend install high cam before on his proton wira,after install he say the rpm idling not stable,up down up down and i dun really know what is the problem,just heard frm him b4 quite some time,what is nasty Port Flow port & polish anyway?

congratulations on your lightened crank pulley! I am using lightenen crank pulley, 262 high cam and port n polish done by Nasty Port Flow. If you need answers u can pm me.

anyway, intalling 260 highcam wont suffer any idling, engine still feels normal, but with extra torque and smoother power all the way to 7000rpm. a friend (alvin24) also installed 292 high cams on his evo rojak engine even switch on aircond also no problem.

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Nasty Port Flow = Shop that does port and polish.

Port and polish = Well porting the engine's ports and smoothening them I guess, haha . Quick 'n' easy explanation

bro littlewagon,

are u a user of LCP, PNP and Highcams too ? :)

 

[noriezmen]

Did your friend perform the Port & Polish after installing the high cam? Amybe the tuner is not good enough. Its true that when you change the lighten crank pulley, the accelleration will feel light and improves pickup/response. It may aso increase 1 WHP to your car (but depends).

However, from my understanding, the design of aftermarket lighten crank pulley usually do no included harmonic damper inwhich the original factory design crank pulley is with harmonic damper. Just ensure that the lightened crank pulley you install at your car is designed with harmonic damper.

 

[nurburing]

haha, bro, my LCP oso dun have damper, I already been using it for 2 yrs la.....from my observation, the LCP tends to loosen up abit every 2-3 months, just need to tighten it up. If want it to be tight just add a spring washer, solve your problem.

this is same case as those ppl change from stock engine mounting to solid PU mountings that cannot absorb the vibration from the engine idling BUT in return provide more engine respond during acceleration and exiting slow corners.

those LCP with dampers are selling so farking expensive n IMHO dont bother to spend those money. to me, dampened LCP is not a neccesity.

 

[lkc]

haha, bro, my LCP oso dun have damper, I already been using it for 2 yrs la.....from my observation, the LCP tends to loosen up abit every 2-3 months, just need to tighten it up. If want it to be tight just add a spring washer, solve your problem.

this is same case as those ppl change from stock engine mounting to solid PU mountings that cannot absorb the vibration from the engine idling BUT in return provide more engine respond during acceleration and exiting slow corners.

those LCP with dampers are selling so farking expensive n IMHO dont bother to spend those money. to me, dampened LCP is not a neccesity.

Bro agree with you,those crank pulley with dampers will cost around rm 600 + ,mine doesn't come with any damper,the brand is works engineering,just cost me rm 350 + install and got 1 year warranty,the shop that sell this to me say got no problem 1,also can use like normal,no need damper also nvm,right now i am jut wondering if it's worth to change the cam pulley also but i didn't upgrade to any hi-cam,does the cam pulley helps on anything or not much?

 

[noriezmen]

If thats the case, will include it into my list. Hahahaha!

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Bro, any advice if to install BOT to Campro? I heard that the engine can manage boost of 0.5 bar? any comments/suggestions?

 

[nurburing]

cam pulley can fine tune abit your tuning, mostly to advance the timing for more low end torque and respond. the difference can be seen if you race a same car same transmission up genting hill....during the steep hairpins or stopping upon speed bumps, then accelerates again, your setup with LCP + PnP + Highcam + Adjustable campulleys, will surely left the other car for good.....half a car length at least.....and when you reach first world hotel, maybe u can leave the other car behind by 1 corner......hehehe....

but u need to practise alot n famillar with genting roads la, dun simply hantam on ur first attempt

Every lightened LCP improves about half a seconds, if all moving pulleys convert to LCP lagi syok, the engine like want to rev n fly away! Even FR turbo-charged 180sx also convert all metal pulleys to LCP makes a different ! If u collect all ur stock metal pulleys, u will be surprise you can kill someone by throwing all the metal pulleys at the person!

PNP doesnt gives HP increase but does improve torque tremendously, coz improve the engine breathing instantly..... highcam is to provide longer valve opening, more air = more power

To me I believe, modding a car should be focue on touge uphill. Coz not much ppl play this, in a straight line highway, autie oso can smoke anyone with a bigger cc engine, but play uphill is entirely diff thing, is damn syok when u smoked someone bigger cc than you.

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If thats the case, will include it into my list. Hahahaha!

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Bro, any advice if to install BOT to Campro? I heard that the engine can manage boost of 0.5 bar? any comments/suggestions?

Frankly speaking, I driving perfomance NA, also driving another Turbo car, my very personal opinion, 1.6 turbo will not satisfied you. Only 2.0 turbo is where to start your turbo journey. What I am saying is not 1.6 turbo is not powerful, but the driving experience between 1.6na VS 1.6turbo, the 1.6na will be better. But on a straight line highway, 1.6turbo will win, but consider you staying in KL n jam always, 1.6na will do the job. 1.6na will also perform better than 1.6turbo during touge hill climb with alot corners + hairpins.

 

[noriezmen]

100% agree with. I do had some conversation about this previously regarding 1.6 NA & Turbo. NA is much more reliable compared to BOT turbo. As for the adjustable cam, i believe its will much more efficient to work with high cam.

 

[nurburing]

not to say NA easier to maintain la, turbo oso easy to maintain but u need to use semi synthetic oil n change oil accurately without delay. let's say now your engine is 1600cc n you want to improve your low end torque as low as 2500rpm-4000rpm, if you mod LCP+PNP+Highcams+Piggyback+Skim Flywheel you can improve alot low end. That means your car improved hillclimb respond alot better than stock.

if you go turbo assuming you boost 0.5bar, your full boost will be around 3500rpm-4000rpm and you only get your full torque. if you are driving in a twisty course with road bumps, 1600turbo will not react as fast as 1600na. that means you canot perform your turbo power and you surely lose to na.

but if you are 2000cc, your respond already there, what you need to tune with turbo is tune to your desire horsepower without sacrificing much of your engine respond. this way only you are able to make use the power of your turbo engine.

dont simply think turbo project BOT can beat everything, everything needed to be considered. if boosting 0.5bar, you may get another extra 20% power, to hit highpowers up to extra 30%++ power you need to boost about 1.2bar an above and then you need to change pistons and all reinforced engine internals and these alone costs alot more......better transplant a reliable engine that is meant for highboost :)

 

[noriezmen]

Thanks Bro. Will stick to my plan now - P&P + LCP + High Cam = More power to my Campro!!