Installing NGV in the turbo engine

[RSI]

It can be done. Even Mercedes sells a E200NGT which is essentially an E200 Kompressor able to run dual fuel: Petrol and NGV.

NGV is ideal as it has a much higher octane than petrol which allows high compression/boost pressure and make more power. The reason why Saga taxi's make less power with NGV is because the engine is setup to run petrol which does not take advantage of NGVs higher octane.

 

[WajaRS]

I read from dunno which forum which says there is a kancil track car which has installed this system in the car..heard it performs better than petrol..no pinking sound during boost..Anybody wanna install? I got jalan..call or sms me at 0123737669...Stock arriving from italy soon..this website might help you out..
http://ngvcommunity.hydrotechmy.com/default.asp

 

[kufaisal]

dat wut i was thinking about before....nice topic...i think can ahh...why dont u ask at the ngv installation place???...i think u will get the better answer!!!

 

[bujang_hensem]

Currently, not all NGV workshop able to install NGV in turbo car. If anybody want to install it i would recomend to install the sequential system because it has it own GAS injector and can mix the air gas ratio better and faster. The only limitation for big cc turbo car..do not boost too high becuase almost all the regulator available in the market can support maximum 200HP. Small cc car like kancil or starlet will not having this problem becuase it only produce low HP even with high boost. NGV Regulator in petrol system is the same as fuel pump + fuel regulator..enough fuel flow can produce more power...same like NGV...too low preasure can damage the engine.

Below is how the sequential system works.

http://www.landi.it/eng/prodotti/scheda_sistema_met07.html

Currently there is one Merc E200 compressor that are using this NGV kit in malaysia...compressor are supercharger semilar to turbo..so it should work with turbo with low boost...the main problem the cost to install this kit around 6K++

 

[algojo9]

Ngv

Should be no prob for normal driving

 

[huaren1978]

i am interested in this project. also giving this a serious thought. my primary concern is same with bujang_hensem. izzit safe for turbocharged engines? i'm using 1.3liter 4e-fte. if it's confirmed to be safe.. then will definitely have it installed.

 

[revolution3]

.. wah next year the oil can up to rm2 i think must do something.. I also using 4g93t verry interested.

 

[RSI]

My concept is to use NGV anytime during cruising. The moment you floor and boost the petrol will come in and work together with NGV. The reason is because NGV is limited in capacity if under boost, very fast the tank go empty.

We have unichip engine management system to control the whole system and we have a dyno to tune it too...

 

[mengz]

hmmm...sounds like a very good concept RSI. i bet lotsa zth-ians are eagerly waiting for a kit to be developed. and if it really works.....no doubt i'll have it done. NGV for working days, petrol for weekend spirited driving :)

 

[revolution3]

hmmm...sounds like a very good concept RSI. i bet lotsa zth-ians are eagerly waiting for a kit to be developed. and if it really works.....no doubt i'll have it done. NGV for working days, petrol for weekend spirited driving :)

ya bro i agree with u.. if bro rsi can prove the sistem is done successfully .. I think many members from zth can go n see the feeling preformance n pick using your sistem..

 

[player]

Hey bro,l oso got a same idea wit u too...but if using the NGV on the big hp engine,do u think the engine will damage by using NGV???plzzz give me the answer,coz im confusing to have a perdana evo...wat engine u put in??traffic jam is very wasting the petrol on a turbo ma...so of coz choosing the NGV in city crusing la,im live in kl kepong area,here got 3 or 4 NGV gas station for me,so i dont need to q up lo...

 

[VF10]

just want to know... how much does it cost to install NGV conversion kit on a turbo/ injection engines..?

 

[flushafteruse]

for taxi about 3k,dunno for turbo car

 

[revolution3]

any ... story about this for bro rsi ...waiting for result...

 

[VF10]

for taxi 3k? for injection or caburetor engines?

 

[Kanna_Altezza]

for taxi 3k? for injection or caburetor engines?

bro for carb its its around 3 to 3.5 k injection is above 4 check my website if interested www.gajahgas.com

 

[flushafteruse]

issit your company bro??

 

[revolution3]

i think for taxi ... ngv using for carb n injection car.. not using for turbo engine car..if i am not mistaken about that..

 

[bujang_hensem]

Bro, turbo engine can install NGV, no problem..but the best is you need to install the sequential type of NGV kit. Its has it own injector to inject the Natural Gas same concept as inject the petrol. The only limitation is using NGV you can't boost high because of the NGV regulator limitation. Most of it the max can go up to 250HP < or less... NGV regulator function same as petrol fuel pump + fuel regulator...it will maintain the gas preasure for the injector to be feed into engine...not enough your engine will kaboom...

but you have choice when running dual fuel just press the switch for

power = petrol
economy = NGV

As for the price..is starting from RM6000...it depent on your tank choice...type eg full steel (60-70kg), semi composite, fully composite (30+kg) etc...maybe up to 10K....


This is the explaination on how it work

http://www.landi.it/eng/prodotti/scheda_sistema_met07.html

 

[revolution3]

Yah bujang_hansem ... aka abas if i am not mistaken .. long time no see.. bro.. when u last time we gath at projet BB... wah bro ... the upgrade prise same like convert engine....

In malaysia u already survey wish are workshop can do convertion petro to gas..nitrogen.