Looking for body car painting

[RENESIS VIII]

Total amount spend on that Wira far exceeds its current value... I would even say it exceeded its original factory value too.

 

[vr2turbo]

Total amount spend on that Wira far exceeds its current value... I would even say it exceeded its original factory value too.

Mod and transplanted have higher value when have right buyer. If normal standard wira then lower value....

 

[fazidk]

Well if u want a good shine that last long u need:
1. A good sprayer
2. Proper/correct mixture of paint
3. Proper/correct mixture of paint n thinner
4. Good quality lacquer
5. Good quality thinner (both normal n 2k thinner) AND
6. Make sure d prep is properly done..x point spending on good quality products when d initial prep work is x up to par..but x la expect a 30k result for a 2-3k job..

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Mod and transplanted have higher value when have right buyer. If normal standard wira then lower value....

Slightly higher but won't be able to cover the costs spent. The paint alone is RM6k if what my friend said is true. The Brembo cost a lot too.

 

[vr2turbo]

Since I know my Wira can't be sold for any value, might as well keep it running for the next 10 years ma. Don't want to get new car and pay installment every month. Rather fix and experiment with new things on this Wira.

Standard wira no need RM6k paint lah.......

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Standard wira no need RM6k paint lah.......

Want something that lasts. Don't want rust problem again. Don't know what to do if main body got rust.

 

[vr2turbo]

Well if u want a good shine that last long u need:
1. A good sprayer
2. Proper/correct mixture of paint
3. Proper/correct mixture of paint n thinner
4. Good quality lacquer
5. Good quality thinner (both normal n 2k thinner) AND
6. Make sure d prep is properly done..x point spending on good quality products when d initial prep work is x up to par..but x la expect a 30k result for a 2-3k job..

Correct, prep is very important. Like putty work, sanding down skill. Some paint job I have seen when you get the car looks perfect, then after a week or two the sanding lines appears and you cannot get rid of it, because it is under the paint layer....

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Well if u want a good shine that last long u need:
1. A good sprayer
2. Proper/correct mixture of paint
3. Proper/correct mixture of paint n thinner
4. Good quality lacquer
5. Good quality thinner (both normal n 2k thinner) AND
6. Make sure d prep is properly done..x point spending on good quality products when d initial prep work is x up to par..but x la expect a 30k result for a 2-3k job..

Means it depends on who is the sprayer as well? Now that is more difficult than getting good quality products.

 

[vr2turbo]

Want something that lasts. Don't want rust problem again. Don't know what to do if main body got rust.

The roof needs replacement. My ex wira had same problem. My friend grind until bare metal on both side, means from outside and inside. Change the glue holding the sheet and frame, paint anti rust paint before respray paint and clear coat. After about 8 months started to come back.....

 

[6UE5t]

Means it depends on who is the sprayer as well? Now that is more difficult than getting good quality products.

Yes it is depending a lot on the workmanship too, I might even think it's more important the materials. Good materials but not coupled with good workmanship will not result good too. However normal std materials but done with good workmanship might result better.

 

[fazidk]

Yes it is depending a lot on the workmanship too, I might even think it's more important the materials. Good materials but not coupled with good workmanship will not result good too. However normal std materials but done with good workmanship might result better.

I x think so bro..all are equally important s they work hand-in-hand..u can have a good painter but if d mixtures r wrong (too little or too much...that's y it's very important to follow d measurements when mixing) then things can go wrong wiz d finishing..but I do agree wiz u on ur last statement tho :)

 

[ken yeang]

The roof needs replacement. My ex wira had same problem. My friend grind until bare metal on both side, means from outside and inside. Change the glue holding the sheet and frame, paint anti rust paint before respray paint and clear coat. After about 8 months started to come back.....

this is exactly what happened to my colleague. He spend thousand of rm for the job, and rust still occur on the roof of the car. Worst, the boot starting to develop rust bubbles pulak. Her girlfren even named it "Rustie"

End of the day, he sold of the car for a song and bought a Myvi.

 

[vr2turbo]

this is exactly what happened to my colleague. He spend thousand of rm for the job, and rust still occur on the roof of the car. Worst, the boot starting to develop rust bubbles pulak. Her girlfren even named it "Rustie"

End of the day, he sold of the car for a song and bought a Myvi.

Yup, same here got feed up sold the Wira and bought the Sonata III. However I got good price because very well kept. I sold to the Dealer who sold me the Sonata but he offer RM19k market price wheres I wanted 21. Told him come over to my house to see. Once he saw, he called his partner and confirmed the deal......lol

 

[vr2turbo]

I x think so bro..all are equally important s they work hand-in-hand..u can have a good painter but if d mixtures r wrong (too little or too much...that's y it's very important to follow d measurements when mixing) then things can go wrong wiz d finishing..but I do agree wiz u on ur last statement tho :)

Yup, like clear coat must have correct amount of clear coat to the hardener. Sprayer also have to be good for even spraying. Too much end up with drip, too little the paint too thin.....

 

[RENESIS VIII]

The roof needs replacement. My ex wira had same problem. My friend grind until bare metal on both side, means from outside and inside. Change the glue holding the sheet and frame, paint anti rust paint before respray paint and clear coat. After about 8 months started to come back.....

Seems like a lot of Wira have this problem. Previously already send the roof for grinding. Now seems okay but the paint started to show signs of crack. Now the rust problem appears on rear bonnet and at the side of driver and passenger door. They are like aligned in one straight line. Small round of dots or bubble shaped rust.

 

[fazidk]

Seems like a lot of Wira have this problem. Previously already send the roof for grinding. Now seems okay but the paint started to show signs of crack. Now the rust problem appears on rear bonnet and at the side of driver and passenger door. They are like aligned in one straight line. Small round of dots or bubble shaped rust.

The rust if u notice on d roof or bonnet/hood follows d 'tulang'..x amount of grinding or stripping work can eliminate it once it appears...u can prolong it for a while (mine lasted 6yrs) before it pops up again...only solution is unfortunately to replace d respective panels..

 

[6UE5t]

I x think so bro..all are equally important s they work hand-in-hand..u can have a good painter but if d mixtures r wrong (too little or too much...that's y it's very important to follow d measurements when mixing) then things can go wrong wiz d finishing..but I do agree wiz u on ur last statement tho :)

Well what I mean with workmanship is everything that includes the work package, like careful mixing, prep, finishing and cleaning works, not just painting. So wrong mixing means not good workmanship also.

 

[vr2turbo]

Seems like a lot of Wira have this problem. Previously already send the roof for grinding. Now seems okay but the paint started to show signs of crack. Now the rust problem appears on rear bonnet and at the side of driver and passenger door. They are like aligned in one straight line. Small round of dots or bubble shaped rust.

Common Proton problem on Wira and Iswara, Wira more on roof and boot cover. Iswara door and engine bonnet.
I sold the Wira because of this rust problem only, engine is Mitsu so no complaints.....

 

[RENESIS VIII]

The rust if u notice on d roof or bonnet/hood follows d 'tulang'..x amount of grinding or stripping work can eliminate it once it appears...u can prolong it for a while (mine lasted 6yrs) before it pops up again...only solution is unfortunately to replace d respective panels..

If rust appears on body area where the parts are non removable, what can be done to it? And is rust problem related to paint job quality?

Common Proton problem on Wira and Iswara, Wira more on roof and boot cover. Iswara door and engine bonnet.
I sold the Wira because of this rust problem only, engine is Mitsu so no complaints.....

My front hood last time already got multiple rust until can see tiny holes where light can actually go through. Replaced the whole hood at the end. Your Wira is on what year? Carb or EFI?

 

[ken yeang]

Yup, like clear coat must have correct amount of clear coat to the hardener. Sprayer also have to be good for even spraying. Too much end up with drip, too little the paint too thin.....

Agree. Some shops offer very cheap price for the paint job. But the paint sprayed on the vehicle was simply too thin, single layer samor, with little prep work......and after couple of years, the colour underneath shows through.

I see that alot of such cases in company lorries and van.