need some help for 4g92 twincam upgrade.....

[artworkz]

every engine will hav probs if u dun maintain it well....
wear n tear will confirm happen as u r using it....
now u highlighted mivec not engaging...
to me...its just a prob dat u hav to solve...
just like misfiring, engine jerking, idling not chun, bla bla bla....

ask everyone here....who;s engine is problem free???
once u get the problem solved, u gain knowledge....
n u'll b able to discuss/guide other ppl in the future....

last time my 4g92 dohc uses castrol magnetec every 8000kms....
convert turbo still uses castrol magnetec...but every 5000kms....
fuel consumption got not much difference for normal drive....
but of course for spirited driving sure turbo drinks more fuel....

perhaps turbo will have more room for error or more wear n tear parts...
as u hav an additional turbo kit as compared to n/a engine....

as for mivec halfcut price....
the price is crazy now....
its almost the same as GSR halfcut....

n for ur information, ur 1.6 front n rear brake system (if urs is a original 1.6 chassis) is the same as mivec/gsr ones....

u sure gsr n 1.6 brake disc is same? i tot the disc sligthy thicker den 1.6

as a satria mivec owner, i think u jz BOT ur 92. jz use td04 is enuf to have fun.
if u hv mivec head, u no nd to change wiring, jz use shift indicator lamp, vafc, emanage..etc u can activate ur mivec.

 

[Enslaved]

A stock mivec is far, far from rock n roll like you mentioned...you need to dump more cash to make it really worth while - cams (MYR2000+ for regrinds/MYR5000++ for Jun cams), PnP, Intake, exhaust, header, ECU, blah blah blah..look at MYR20k for a start..

 

[AD_EG]

every engine will hav probs if u dun maintain it well....
wear n tear will confirm happen as u r using it....
now u highlighted mivec not engaging...
to me...its just a prob dat u hav to solve...
just like misfiring, engine jerking, idling not chun, bla bla bla....

ask everyone here....who;s engine is problem free???
once u get the problem solved, u gain knowledge....
n u'll b able to discuss/guide other ppl in the future....

last time my 4g92 dohc uses castrol magnetec every 8000kms....
convert turbo still uses castrol magnetec...but every 5000kms....
fuel consumption got not much difference for normal drive....
but of course for spirited driving sure turbo drinks more fuel....

perhaps turbo will have more room for error or more wear n tear parts...
as u hav an additional turbo kit as compared to n/a engine....

as for mivec halfcut price....
the price is crazy now....
its almost the same as GSR halfcut....

n for ur information, ur 1.6 front n rear brake system (if urs is a original 1.6 chassis) is the same as mivec/gsr ones....

sifooo Calvin have spoken

 

[coolman91]

hmm..... if a noob noob mivec can have how many bhp and whp ?
just original halfcut from shop.....
because i dont think i will trow in so much in for satria.... just a bit upgrade and have some fun....

 

[Shinjite]

1.6 MIVEC around 120-13x WHP avg on stock, the minimal figure might be lower too depending on condition of the engine

 

[calvin9683]

dear artworkz....
the disc diameter r all the same...
as for this thickness, there;s no confirmed ones....
some GSR comes wif "thin" some comes wif "thick"....
even evo twin port oso got "thick" n "thin" ones....
do the thickness of the disc play such an important role???
or the diameter???
no doubt thicker ones = can skim more = u can use longer....

ad_eg...
dun simply sifu la...
there's so many sifu lurking around in zth...
u oso super power sifu ma...everywhere can see u givin good comments/suggestions....

agree wif enslaved...
but everyone hav different defination of "rock n roll"....
heehee

coolman...
changing mivec head + wiring + ecu will giv u an engine wif mivec system....
but the engine block n piston is different, mivec piston is higher in compression and they hav oil squitters.....
n also the gearbox, mivec gearbox have its own designated ratio....
if u wanna play shiok shiok listen to mivec open, can do this way la....
dun say dun intend to spend much...once u start, u cant stop....seen too much...in fact i oso did said this phrase before...but do the otherwise....lol

 

[artworkz]

i jz say about diffrent btw gsr n 1.6 disc ,no say about performance. but thicker disc hv larger ventilation for sure cooling more faster. maybe not an important role but is a good point.

 

[zac]

Dear coolman, if you really want to rock n roll then go for BOT, rm7k max with all necessary part included and your bhp can outrun stock mivec bhp on paper...

In actual drag situation, you might need to add up rm1k for a better clutch and at least two good tyre in front to outrun stock mivec...

If you wan to beat stock mivec even during cornering then you need to strengthen up chasis/body with sort of bars, a good set of suspension is needed which in total will cost you at least rm2k.

Big horsepower can easily gained but it's difficult to create a well balanced car... also your money will just keep flowing out from your pocket as long as your pocket still have cash as human's desire is unlimited... Last but not least... enjoy modding!! : )

 

[JackWaiKit]

But if u 4g92 dohc, may not have to go for mivec anyway...
If i' not mistaken, mivec is using alloy block...don't they?
yours is normal engine block... u plug mivec head & ecu wouldn't better than a standard mivec...
Unless u go for 4g93 1.8 block......So u can also plug ur current 1.6 piston(hi comp) piston into 1.8 block...(unless u buy the japan 4g93 SOHC with hi comp piston together)

If u BOT, u need have to change your piston to GSR(low comp) in order for u to boost higher...

 

[coolman91]

in this case looks like BOT on is better then mivec halfcut here and there....
so where do i start ?
since i am a newbie and a stock 4g92 DOHC..... going 2 overhaul soon dude to top and btm parts of the engine black oil leaking and mechanical say my 4 cylinder is leaking pressure ......
should i overhaul that time do PNP ? and other stuff .....

 

[drexxza]

BOt yah..hehehe.. ok u can start searching those BOT kit now, since u said that u are going to do top oberhaul already.. maybe thats the correct time..
its time to upgrade u piston,to change ur gasket , to install ur Bot Kit..an sooo onn..
and make sure the mechanic u asign is use/manageble to perform it k...never try an error one..
or them will drain ur cash...hehehe.gud luck..

 

[artworkz]

port ur dohc head, buy gsr cam shaft.buy a turbo kit from GSR. buy 1.8 block. buy con rod n piston from GSR. recent gt alot GSR upgraded their internal, so u can find ori GSR internal such as piston, conrod n cam at budget price. (standard 4g93 sohc block n crank shaft oso can withstand 1.0 bar boost n oni cost as low as rm500)

 

[coolman91]

if i change my block to 4g93 i think i need go for JPJ inspection right ?
if in that case i dont think i will go for 4g93 block ha ha because need find runner to do = need more money and like too waste that i buy this 4g92 twincam and dont even mod then sell it am i right ??

from the last post i post that i am going 2 OVERHAUL and BOT on , MAYBE U ALL HAVE GOT ME ALL WRONG OR MY ENGLISH WRITING TOO NOOB YA... sorry ......
From my last post i wanted to say is i am going to overhaul now.... so i am asking what can i still do before i BOT on like PNP , change large metal gasket and so on....
What drexxza SAY "(its time to upgrade u piston,to change ur gasket , to install ur Bot Kit..an sooo onn..)" is later on so can u all SIFU and GOR GOR tell me in between this overhaul what can i still change to make it POWER and BUT not BOT on now..... but pls do tell me BOT on SPEC ya .... thank you
and sorry that i noob on ENGLISH skill.... make u all miss understand so so so SORRY....

 

[artworkz]

i oso use 93 block for my mivec. i jz change the engine no. oni. stil pay 1.6 road tax. if u dun wan use 93 block, u oso can remain 1.6. turbo kit for i means is taken from standard GSR: exhaust manifold, turbo,intercooler, turbo hose, air filter pipe,standard blow off valve. wif all use 2nd from GSR owner ll save alot money. u oso can find ori GSR piston. now day alot of mod GSR, so u can easy to find out these part.

 

[coolman91]

if i change 4g93 with now 4g92 number will it have any problem like polis stop or JPJ ...
still young dont know how 2 do ..... pls teach ya hee hee some times YOUNG people also will GONE BAD XD
if u buy second hand turbo ... can i repair it like RECONDITION it like new .... so i wont have HARD pain for future ... scare use a new months then turbo leaking and so on......

 

[artworkz]

so far i meet so many jpj n open bonnet, i oso can pass. 93 block oni abit higher den 92.used turbo oso can be in very good condition.n td04 not expensive oso. since alot of GSR use td05, td04 become easy to find.

 

[coolman91]

oh i c...... in this case hee hee maybe i will be BAD boy wa ka ka ka......
TD04 and TD05 got what different ???
i think if i bot on that time .... my DREAM boost is 1.5bar lo hee hee so which 1 suit me ?

 

[artworkz]

td05 is evo turbo. quite expensive. tdo4 can gv u 1 bar ord lol. i m not sure td04 can boost to 1.5 bar or not.1.5 bar engine sure ll kong super fast. i hv seat in a mivec 1.6 use GSR turbo kit. change GSR piston to low down compression. at 3000rpm d feel force back on seat. quite enjoy n he oni spend rm3000++ for part; gsr turbo kit, gsr injector, old model AFC, old model ignition timing controler.

 

[coolman91]

o i c...... 1 bar got the G force feeling ???

 

[artworkz]

for 1.6 na upgrade to 1bar boost sure the g force is strong. u ll feel u body stick on seat .by the way, tis is the cheaper n faster path to increase power.