Turbo Vs Vtec

[mivec_mivec]

Who tapau who it doesn't matters now ... VTEC is a amazing system ... We all like it ... EVO is a cool car , i personally love it to die ... hahaha

bro,it sure does matter..tht is the result of 2.0vtec against 2.0turbo evo..if u like evo,its ur matter..but the end the vtec jump to the river...thts what i heard laa...

 

[D-IV]

The new FD2r track times proves to be better than NSX type S zero, Mitsubishi EVO 5, RX7 efini and a few others. These are fully OEM on Tsukuba and other tracks in Japan driven by the professionals. The newer model EVO 7-9 and Sti's are indeed faster than the FD2r.

Those are only track times being evaluated. Don't talk about putting 4G63t on a wira because then i can put the K20r on an CRX or an old 680kg swift GTi and we can start comparing again.

 

[xtremeleo]

DIV, from dat alone we clearly see dat a charged car wit the same capicity is better then an NA. the FD2R is indeed an iteresting car, both for track and road but if compared wit technologies from similar time, charged engines r better in terms of performace. or course ler kan? dat is what the turbocharger was made in the first place; to increase the engine's efficiency hence making more power. BUT, dat doesnt mean dat a VTEC is 2nd best, its one of the best engine in the world imo.

 

[Mitevo7]

bro,it sure does matter..tht is the result of 2.0vtec against 2.0turbo evo..if u like evo,its ur matter..but the end the vtec jump to the river...thts what i heard laa...

Yes i do think so sometimes when ego strikes my mind .... hehe .. anyway just love our ride, trust it ... Master it ... and take it for a spin and satisfy yourself is good enough already .

 

[D-IV]

Agreed. I've personally own both before. Ran an original EVO 4 before and now have an EG3 transplanted with EG9 engine. Both have its strength and fun to be honest. I love the fact that I can tackle corners like there's no tommorow and then I love the high revving capability and quick response from NA VTEC. Both are fun in their own ways that i can't have all in only one.

Even at the moment, i'm having a hard time trying to choose between purchasing an FD2r or an EVO 9 because the price is pretty much the same. But Logically thinking, i would choose the EVO 9... Its not always because of the power, its because I enjoyed my experience last time with my evo 4.

 

[Trinityblood]

Im oso support ur statement bro...personally modified my 4g93p before i noe its not as fun as vtec
since no variable valve unless we put the mivec head.yet it still reliable engine..since im staying in kuantan and once a while drove back t cheras im enjoy the most the bentong corners..NA counter corner and drop to 3rd gear and accelerate.i miss most of the quick respon so that i gain
the speed to enter another corner witout worried on any over boost or engine temp.But it didnt happen wif my evo 3 engine now...huhu.i have to monitor most of the gudjet to make sure my engine in perfect temp and not to over boost on the corner..however im enjoying this turbo engine
for the g-force and and i dun have to change gear to over take on the highway..juz floor it boost come and im ahead edi...my point is both engine vtec and force induction got pro n con..
if i had a choice in the future to chose my called sport car i will chose something that came from
boxer engine..yet still turbo and good on corner..hehe

 

[SAO 6418]

that rite.. dont compared 2.0 vr4 wif 1.6 vtec.. giler keper..
but the truth is, wif 300++ hp turbo engine, not surely can win 200hp vtec.
who wanna say this is not fact?

Totally agree wif dc & DIV

u seen i compared between a B16 and a vr4? what did i wrote then? i dont think a vr4 cud keep up wit the DC5 ability, hence suggesting the evo8 because they came from similar time, which may show similar technologies. comprende? i didnt fire u anywhere here, dont go all terasa all of a sudden.

i know well dat any VTEC engine isnt ordinary, wether for their fuel saving capability, or the higher end power, but note dis : wit similar mods, any charged engine will outperform an na machine, if driven by a competent driver

dc vtec : comparison shudnt be all about dragging, but IF u must, wit a proper driver dat 300 charged machine will outrun a 200hp vtec anyday

DIV, from dat alone we clearly see dat a charged car wit the same capicity is better then an NA. the FD2R is indeed an iteresting car, both for track and road but if compared wit technologies from similar time, charged engines r better in terms of performace. or course ler kan? dat is what the turbocharger was made in the first place; to increase the engine's efficiency hence making more power. BUT, dat doesnt mean dat a VTEC is 2nd best, its one of the best engine in the world imo.

xremeleo,
r u sure 300hp turbo will outrun 200hp vtec ANYDAY?
r u sure turbo engine efficiency is higher than NA? or u terbalik oledi

same timeline ....hmmmm
if vr4 220hp wira vs 200hp B-series eg (count on same hp not $$$ n driver)

 

[xtremeleo]

lol, sure beb! turbine was invented to make an ENGINE TO RUN MORE EFFICIENTLY, search dat up before u try to be smart. NA VE is usually below the half mark, but a charged engine VE can be more den 100%. if u dont what dat means, pm me for more info

within the same time line, a B-series have to be modified to achieve dat power figure. keyword : MODIFIED, whats the point in arguing about it then? dat VR4 is std stock, u wanna requote for a modified VR4 pulak tak? from what u posted, i see u havent been riding in a powerful VR4/evo hybrid. u'll be begging for life on boost, literally

ive had enuff of modified engines argument, i like to hear if std compared to std. FD2R is the highest line within the civic family, but the evo from similar time will outrun it wether in track on in drag, dat is what i believe anyway

 

[EvolutionZ]

the stories go on....& on......

 

[deacon]

Can't someone lock this moronic thread? Why start stupid red necked arguments about what is better turbo or vtec or bigger displacement blah blah blah blah.

Some people need to grow up a bit and realize that everyone is entitled to drive, own and have their own opinions, don't make threads just to "share" how much better you think turbo is better or how much vtec is better. :stupid:

Geez.

 

[EvolutionZ]

Can't someone lock this moronic thread? Why start stupid red necked arguments about what is better turbo or vtec or bigger displacement blah blah blah blah.

Some people need to grow up a bit and realize that everyone is entitled to drive, own and have their own opinions, don't make threads just to "share" how much better you think turbo is better or how much vtec is better. :stupid:

Geez.

Bump: Can't someone lock this moronic thread? Why start stupid red necked arguments about what is better turbo or vtec or bigger displacement blah blah blah blah.

Some people need to grow up a bit and realize that everyone is entitled to drive, own and have their own opinions, don't make threads just to "share" how much better you think turbo is better or how much vtec is better. :stupid:

Geez.

agreed....diff ppl diff opinion, cant get everyone to agree with any single preference...as long as u r happy then go for it.....vtec or turbo, both are successful project done by the japs...still has and will continue to have strong supporters....lets not argue...cheerz

 

[deacon]

Quick someone get a moderator to close, lock and destroy this 14 thread page colossal waste of time!

 

[SAO 6418]

lol, sure beb! turbine was invented to make an ENGINE TO RUN MORE EFFICIENTLY, search dat up before u try to be smart. NA VE is usually below the half mark, but a charged engine VE can be more den 100%. if u dont what dat means, pm me for more info

within the same time line, a B-series have to be modified to achieve dat power figure. keyword : MODIFIED, whats the point in arguing about it then? dat VR4 is std stock, u wanna requote for a modified VR4 pulak tak? from what u posted, i see u havent been riding in a powerful VR4/evo hybrid. u'll be begging for life on boost, literally

ive had enuff of modified engines argument, i like to hear if std compared to std. FD2R is the highest line within the civic family, but the evo from similar time will outrun it wether in track on in drag, dat is what i believe anyway

Aiya.... whatever lah.... u r d champion lah.... dun argue ok ... I LOSS, I LOSS....

 

[jeheyr]

vtec & Turbo...
different category.....
vtec... some of them can smoke turbo..
some turbo also can win over vtec..
:sleep:

 

[Trinityblood]

vtec & Turbo...
different category.....
vtec... some of them can smoke turbo..
some turbo also can win over vtec..
:sleep:

thats the fact..u got the point dude..:proud:

 

[mivec_mivec]

hahahahaha..what different categories?we put both on 'OPEN CATEGORY'...GIVE UR BEST!!!...HAHAHA...wonder what happen if xtremeleo drag with SAO 6418..just in case they play drag..

all this while,i never put both tech on different platform..they were both engine put on the chassis..they run on the street..they maybe irritating each other..so,for car guide,the would like to see and diffrentiate both technology..just test the vtec and turbo on the track..and be pro la bros..for sure a vtec not against the kancil turbo..put an appropriate candidate la..its not about who win..but to understand why they win..why some lost..

to any party that asking to end this thread,if u dont want to participate,..just ignore us..it might help..dont post in this thread..keep others that still has interest in this topic..

many,to pro vtec always chickening turbo and vice versa..why dont just share the experience here..if keep arguing then no end here loh..but thats not my point..

to thread starter,i think u had enough idea on the thread u started..u know wht best for you..its ur needs...

 

[zero2hundred]

no need to compare one
let the argument continues in the street or track or etc

best la statement nih,agree!! from sharing to arguing......sigh....i cant see any point or solution that has made out...why not take a pencil and a note to write down vtec or turbo win more when any drag races held on da track or watsover, more numbers thats the winner ....easy!! :proud: otherwise da topic will never end until the day we start to mods our jetplane xD ..

 

[darkemperor]

well, both N/A and turbo are in different category technically....the question is why not Honda it self
put a force induction system into the civic to be on par with the EVO or Scooby????
It is just because they wanted to it to be N/A.....
Even the Evo it self adopt the Mivec and match it wit turbo to make better power in all range...
so instead of arguing which is superior.. better all of us learn the tech from both world therefore we will appreciate what they have....

 

[mivec_mivec]

well, both N/A and turbo are in different category technically....the question is why not Honda it self
put a force induction system into the civic to be on par with the EVO or Scooby????
It is just because they wanted to it to be N/A.....
Even the Evo it self adopt the Mivec and match it wit turbo to make better power in all range...
so instead of arguing which is superior.. better all of us learn the tech from both world therefore we will appreciate what they have....

u were right dude..evo X is lazats..and,why honda didnt put turbo charge on its vtec?i think there should be reasonable answer...why ah?because they want it just N/A?em...then good la vtec..can pranggg the turbo(only on bad hair days turbo)..ahaks..

but,indeed..please read the first thread..its not mivec (terbalik) turbo is about..mostly is GSR engine..4G6x..or 4g9x..and the vtec..

the technology still mivec turbo win (need the best tuner here)..while on most tracks,both vtec and turbo have chances to end first at the glance of red line..still,depend on the crazy tuner...

so,my little nerve here says,..vtec is the best...if i'm not mistaken,the M adapt the cam lift from the H...hehehehehe

 

[deacon]

i didn't understand a word that was written in that last post... are you trying to say that mivec turbos are better than honda NA engines?