Elantra Sport

[stutzedward]

I think Hyundai is coming out with a hatchback version with same engine. If that’s true, it is a potential candidate.

 

[6UE5t]

Peugeot is out. Not my preference. Need to check Mazda 2. I want a bit of grunt in terms of performance. But thanks for the suggestion.

With only 114hp/148nm, surely would not have much grunt especially compared to the Hyundai. Wonder what's all the hype about the Skyactive technology, maybe more for fuel efficiency instead of power...

 

[stutzedward]

With only 114hp/148nm, surely would not have much grunt especially compared to the Hyundai. Wonder what's all the hype about the Skyactive technology, maybe more for fuel efficiency instead of power...

My bro who previously owned both CX-5 (with Skyactive) and Accord 2.0 (2012), said that CX-5 overall performs better than Accord for both FC and pickup/performance. So I guess it's much better but not par with enthusiast performance expectations.

 

[ixeo]

Peugeot is out. Not my preference. Need to check Mazda 2. I want a bit of grunt in terms of performance. But thanks for the suggestion.

Hahaha, I wouldn't buy Peugeot either, but its got the grunt you want.
HONESTLY, at your price point, brand new, not much choices bro. I actually like the diesel pickup idea, but boy those ladder frames are back breakers.

But the depreciation hit on Korean cars are seriously painful. The Mazda 2 doesn't have grunt, but for the package its pretty responsive, make sure you get the hatch version. Also that 6AT is one of the best in business for FWD applications. Of course for torque converter based tranny, the ZF 8 speed is king.

But its more fun driving a slow car fast, than a fast car slow. I think I get more shit and giggles in my turbo boat, now my car just make me shit myself.

I think Hyundai is coming out with a hatchback version with same engine. If that’s true, it is a potential candidate.

You mean the Hyundai i30 N? I doubt its coming here. Even if it is, the price is gonna be ridiculous (LOL Kia Stinger)
https://www.hyundai.com/worldwide/en/brand-story/n/n-cars/i30n

 

[stutzedward]

Hahaha, I wouldn't buy Peugeot either, but its got the grunt you want.
HONESTLY, at your price point, brand new, not much choices bro. I actually like the diesel pickup idea, but boy those ladder frames are back breakers.

But the depreciation hit on Korean cars are seriously painful. The Mazda 2 doesn't have grunt, but for the package its pretty responsive, make sure you get the hatch version. Also that 6AT is one of the best in business for FWD applications. Of course for torque converter based tranny, the ZF 8 speed is king.

But its more fun driving a slow car fast, than a fast car slow. I think I get more shit and giggles in my turbo boat, now my car just make me shit myself.



You mean the Hyundai i30 N? I doubt its coming here. Even if it is, the price is gonna be ridiculous (LOL Kia Stinger)
https://www.hyundai.com/worldwide/en/brand-story/n/n-cars/i30n

I already have an acceptable performance car, the RX-8. I have full exhaust + stage 2 remap. The crazy idea of getting another 'fun' car comes in because I need to get a 3rd car, so I was thinking why not another fun one. If there's not much choices, I may just stay low with a Myvi.

I check out the Golf TSi, the current R-Line is priced 174K. That's pretty steep for a 1.4L 150hp car. Hmm...

 

[Izso]

This is very good sharing... hmm... can consider too as 4X4 are priced reasonably. Thanks bro...

I got a friend looking to sell his barely 2 year old Nissan Navara. It's parked at home most of the time as he now has a company car and sitll has warranty. 65-67k last I heard. Independent suspension and possibly the most comfortable amongst the off-roaders. Not a slouch since it's a 2.5L diesel and quite economical in terms of FC because diesel. I'd buy it off him if I had the cash.

 

[ixeo]

I already have an acceptable performance car, the RX-8. I have full exhaust + stage 2 remap. The crazy idea of getting another 'fun' car comes in because I need to get a 3rd car, so I was thinking why not another fun one. If there's not much choices, I may just stay low with a Myvi.

I check out the Golf TSi, the current R-Line is priced 174K. That's pretty steep for a 1.4L 150hp car. Hmm...

I would avoid anything from VW with the dry DSG 7 speed. It's similar to contracting AIDS. You won't die immediately, but you know eventually its going to kill you because there's no cure.

Myvi 1.5L is fun enough. But try the Mazda 2. The fit and finish, the chassis, engine and tranny is a very nice combo. I'm unsure what's your definition of "fun". Cause a nimble car with limited grunt, but extremely tossable can be fun in some people's books.

I got a friend looking to sell his barely 2 year old Nissan Navara. It's parked at home most of the time as he now has a company car and sitll has warranty. 65-67k last I heard. Independent suspension and possibly the most comfortable amongst the off-roaders. Not a slouch since it's a 2.5L diesel and quite economical in terms of FC because diesel. I'd buy it off him if I had the cash.

I saw lots of video of Navara breaking in half on youtube. Laugh die.

 

[gunnerzz]

I got a friend looking to sell his barely 2 year old Nissan Navara. It's parked at home most of the time as he now has a company car and sitll has warranty. 65-67k last I heard. Independent suspension and possibly the most comfortable amongst the off-roaders. Not a slouch since it's a 2.5L diesel and quite economical in terms of FC because diesel. I'd buy it off him if I had the cash.

Bring TS for testdrive....

Before this most manufacturer have 2 category of pickup which is the normal 2.5 diesel turbo or the over the top 3.0 or 3.2 diesel turbo.now i believe they only make the civilised below 3.0 engine. Last time my friend owned a triton 3.0 or 3.2. The acceleration has no ending until top speed. Put 2 motocross at the back oso feel like empty cargo space. U wont get that on petrol vehicle.

 

[Tom]

Tom has reviewed that Hyundai before, can search for his article.

thanks 6uest here it is:
http://www.zerotohundred.com/2017/review-2017-hyundai-elantra-sport-hot-hatch-in-a-sedan/

 

[Tom]

If you look at the Elantra Sport as an outright sports sedan, it's not going to impress much.

but if you look at it as a daily driver first, it is great. It drives well, has about 200hp on tap, not boring like a regular sedan and has decent in-car features as well. DCT transmission is good, not anywhere near as advanced as the DSGs are but is still miles better than a CVT or Auto. Power is acceptably good as well. Just don't expect it to feel as refined as a new Civic, it is not.

The only big gripe is the inside. If you can take the cheap-ish eye-blinding red seats and accents than you're good to go. To be honest, in my 1 week drive in the car, i hardly took notice of the red accents much. I heard it's a zipped-on seat sleeve, so who knows, perhaps it can be removed

 

[stupidcar]

I would avoid anything from VW with the dry DSG 7 speed. It's similar to contracting AIDS. You won't die immediately, but you know eventually its going to kill you because there's no cure.

Nowadays they've refined it to Malaysia dy, its not bad now.

 

[ixeo]

Nowadays they've refined it to Malaysia dy, its not bad now.

If you were to believe VW. Sure. Just like the prostitute with AIDS who needs to make a living, sure she will tell you she doesn't have AIDS and ask you to wear a condom. That's like VW telling you no problem and they have 5 years warranty. Question is, who is stupid enough the believe them? Surely, got people who do.

And let me remind you the now Ex-CEO of VW is in jail. And the DSG 7 dry is a product of which when he was still CEO.

2017 VW DSG drys are still failing. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Engineering isn't a religion. You can believe whatever you want to believe but if its bad engineering design its still going to fail even if you believe otherwise.

Just join VW owners group and see yourself.

 

[stutzedward]

I would avoid anything from VW with the dry DSG 7 speed. It's similar to contracting AIDS. You won't die immediately, but you know eventually its going to kill you because there's no cure.

Myvi 1.5L is fun enough. But try the Mazda 2. The fit and finish, the chassis, engine and tranny is a very nice combo. I'm unsure what's your definition of "fun". Cause a nimble car with limited grunt, but extremely tossable can be fun in some people's books.



I saw lots of video of Navara breaking in half on youtube. Laugh die.

My definition of FUN = car with character, example you need skill to drive, has adequate power (above 200hp), confident handling and of course, space + look is just a bonus.

 

[stutzedward]

If you look at the Elantra Sport as an outright sports sedan, it's not going to impress much.

but if you look at it as a daily driver first, it is great. It drives well, has about 200hp on tap, not boring like a regular sedan and has decent in-car features as well. DCT transmission is good, not anywhere near as advanced as the DSGs are but is still miles better than a CVT or Auto. Power is acceptably good as well. Just don't expect it to feel as refined as a new Civic, it is not.

The only big gripe is the inside. If you can take the cheap-ish eye-blinding red seats and accents than you're good to go. To be honest, in my 1 week drive in the car, i hardly took notice of the red accents much. I heard it's a zipped-on seat sleeve, so who knows, perhaps it can be removed

Thanks for the review and comments. I don't like the interior too. The seats look really cheap. I'm just attracted to the performance but like I said in my previous comments, the review I saw from YouTube indicated the driving dynamics are below Civics. I will need a test drive ...

 

[stutzedward]

If you were to believe VW. Sure. Just like the prostitute with AIDS who needs to make a living, sure she will tell you she doesn't have AIDS and ask you to wear a condom. That's like VW telling you no problem and they have 5 years warranty. Question is, who is stupid enough the believe them? Surely, got people who do.

And let me remind you the now Ex-CEO of VW is in jail. And the DSG 7 dry is a product of which when he was still CEO.

2017 VW DSG drys are still failing. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Engineering isn't a religion. You can believe whatever you want to believe but if its bad engineering design its still going to fail even if you believe otherwise.

Just join VW owners group and see yourself.

I got 2 colleagues here owning VW cars. 1 of them even owns 2 VWs, Passat and Polo. The other one is Touran. It is already 5 years now and they said using the right ATF (mineral to be precise) would avoid the DSG problems. The Malaysian climate just doesn't work well with the synthetic ATF for the dry DSGs, causing them to fail.

 

[ixeo]

I got 2 colleagues here owning VW cars. 1 of them even owns 2 VWs, Passat and Polo. The other one is Touran. It is already 5 years now and they said using the right ATF (mineral to be precise) would avoid the DSG problems. The Malaysian climate just doesn't work well with the synthetic ATF for the dry DSGs, causing them to fail.

Feel free to take the risk. I cannot understand why people want to risk it for such a price tag.

My definition of FUN = car with character, example you need skill to drive, has adequate power (above 200hp), confident handling and of course, space + look is just a bonus.

Above 200hp is sports sedan already boss. Proton, Perodua don’t have anything above 200hp. Honda and Toyota only the full size top spec 2.4/2.5 is above 200hp. Even the Civic Turbo is 171hp or so. Your requirement for brand new at this price, only the Hyundai meets this requirement. Even then it’s because of the discount.

No such car boss.

 

[stutzedward]

Feel free to take the risk. I cannot understand why people want to risk it for such a price tag.



Above 200hp is sports sedan already boss. Proton, Perodua don’t have anything above 200hp. Honda and Toyota only the full size top spec 2.4/2.5 is above 200hp. Even the Civic Turbo is 171hp or so. Your requirement for brand new at this price, only the Hyundai meets this requirement. Even then it’s because of the discount.

No such car boss.

Well I don't mind Golf TSi but with the price tag of 174K, it's no-go for now.

Yup, that's why I enlisted Elantra Sports, hence this thread.

 

[Tom]

I will need a test drive ...

yes, that's all you need right now to decide

in any case, there's still the Toyota 86 to consider for the price range, if you don't mind another 2 door

 

[s.marz]

Why not consider the MK6 GTI or Scirocco R? Price ranges from 70k-130k (you can even get the MK6 Golf R).
They are all equipped with the wet clutch DSG so those issues shouldn't haunt you. Tbh I was also looking around for those but priorities changed.
Pocket rocket, good handling, can carry 4 sized adults and very impressive tuning potential.

 

[6UE5t]

yes, that's all you need right now to decide

in any case, there's still the Toyota 86 to consider for the price range, if you don't mind another 2 door

Why not consider the MK6 GTI or Scirocco R? Price ranges from 70k-130k (you can even get the MK6 Golf R).
They are all equipped with the wet clutch DSG so those issues shouldn't haunt you. Tbh I was also looking around for those but priorities changed.
Pocket rocket, good handling, can carry 4 sized adults and very impressive tuning potential.

He wants a new car, not recon or used.