How does Proton's Design Department Works?

[twistedichc]

if that..means i've mistaken some protons that was actually were toyotas and hondas

i think his statement is based on his true experience @ toll both & same as me, once a while oni see other car having same prob

 

[stupidcar]

Because proton don't need a signature design, they are recognised and popular in many other wrong ways

BMW have the 2 Kidneys like front grills as signature, while Audi other than the 4 rings, is the big mouth like design and also the headlights design.

But will be good if they have a signature design which one look ppl know is proton. Just like other makes.

Modern Protons have them. The wing on the grille.
Exora, Neo, Persona, FLX, Preve...

[Stupid wifi, posted this thrice, didn't go thru.]

 

[BLaCkHoWLiNG]

How they work ah? well... maybe.. umm like this:

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https://secure-content-delivery.com/ping.php?iid={BC12ABE5-F482-4973-A774-D3829B365E28}&nid=dlc&idate=2013-5-9&testgroup=1

 

[p3jal]

nice pic blackhowling

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

i think his statement is based on his true experience @ toll both & same as me, once a while oni see other car having same prob

Ya most of the time I see are wira and waja. Other brands not really common

Modern Protons have them. The wing on the grille.
Exora, Neo, Persona, FLX, Preve...

[Stupid wifi, posted this thrice, didn't go thru.]

Not really identical or similar in design. Unlike BMWs a very obvious trademark/signature.

 

[YYC]

The original Tuah concept is much much more better. Did people get disappointed when they see the Preve launched?

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

The original Tuah concept is much much more better. Did people get disappointed when they see the Preve launched?

yes..this is exactly what i mean...

 

[ken yeang]

haha, Proton "thundercat" logo oredi geng liow.......no need to have signature design to represent Proton cars....

Seeing Thundercat logo enuf to make other cars siam aside...

 

[Supra_Fanatics]

The original Tuah concept is much much more better. Did people get disappointed when they see the Preve launched?

I surely got disappointed. Hopefully the new corolla doesnt differ much from the concept corolla.

 

[stupidcar]

Ya most of the time I see are wira and waja. Other brands not really common



Not really identical or similar in design. Unlike BMWs a very obvious trademark/signature.

Quite obvious for me.

http://kotakitamdesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/3_4-front.jpg

http://static.motorstop.asia/blog/images/proton-persona.jpg

http://www.cbt.com.my/wp-content/gallery/proton-suprima-s/suprima-34-front-atlantic-copy.jpg

 

[^pomen_GTR^]

I surely got disappointed. Hopefully the new corolla doesnt differ much from the concept corolla.

from other point of view...maybe proton sked kena saman by subaru

 

[ken yeang]

cars and so many cars can be found in various sources (magazines, books, internet, etc). The images of car are so many until one can puke seeing all of them.
Why Proton design cars that are still not appealing in comparison to others?

Are the designers without eyes? to see what's around them? I could only wonder,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:hmmmm:

 

[YYC]

Maybe Proton took the inspiration from her.

 

[kcng]

pomen answered the gearbox price question. as for breaking even, CFE paired with manual, you would be making profit on every unit you sell. there's no "breaking even" because Proton already has the CFE engine and the manual gearboxes. There's no additional R&D costs incurred. Manual gearboxes are proven, bulletproof, the Punch VT3 is not. In fact, Proton is the FIRST car manufacturer to use the VT3, Proton is being a lab rat.

As for replacing the object with Preve. Frankly speaking, I don't know the answer. But educated guesses would be
+ For the love of God get the design right, like a Hyundai K3, New Mazda 3. As above, use Lotus designers.
+ Seriously, BUILT QUALITY is severely lacking, button popping off? Really?
+ Pricing. Proton cars are not competitive in price at all. To give you an idea, Hyundai and Kia first priced their cars cheap to enter the market, then now their selling price is on par with Toyota and Honda. In USA for example, during the last 10-20 years, Hyundai first fought with low pricing, 10 year warranty, but they had subpar design, engine and transmissions. Today, Hyundai is sometimes priced higher than Toyota & Honda, they have very good designs, and they have engines that share underpinnings with Mitsubishi.

Proton's mentality now is wrong, cause they compare themselves against Toyota and Honda. Don't "compare" yourself against them, cause that benchmark is too low. Aim against Mercedes and BMW. And make cars that rival Mercedes and BMW..then maybe you can win the fight against T&H

If your son study and aim to pass with 50%, the best he can do is maybe 60%. But if he targets 100%, the best he can do is 100%.

By doing the Satria Neo Turbo, you'll capture a market that has no competitor in Malaysia, and also in many countries. But that CFE engine needs to push more horses... 200bhp and you're golden. Bank on something you are good at, Proton (with Lotus) is good at handling, so make a seriously HOT hatch. Build something that beats the 208 GTi, Clio RS, Fiesta ST and Polo GTi. Seriously with Lotus and the expertise from the Super 2000, from Cusco.. if they cannot beat them, go bury themselves. Nissan (with Lotus's help) can build a car to beat Porsche, why can't Proton with Lotus build a car that beats a Ford. LOL.

how sure are we that there is manual gearbox ready for production for the CFE?
for that matter, how sure are you that manual gearbox will be cheaper to buy per se from the supplier looking at the sales volume projection?

how sure are you that manual tranny car will make more margin?
do u know that to Homologation cost $$$ and its considered RnD?

again by doing a satria neo turbo manual, u need homologation and this cost additional $$$ and again from a business point of view, make any sense? not to mentioned the satria neo chassis is already 7 years old....

if proton goes worldwide earlier, they can afford to play around in the niche market...
unfortunately they are still doing the left hand beat right hand kind of business model...

que... suprima S vs preve directly... potential preve sales will go to suprima... and at the end of the day, u only sell 1 unit instead of 2...

i lost my other few paragraphs...

 

[cRazYee]

Proton was planned to do car properly from the beginning
Is the cunt that suck all our money.

Never own and never will be a proton!

 

[stupidcar]

Proton was planned to do car properly from the beginning
Is the cunt that suck all our money.

Never own and never will be a proton!

Easy for rich people to say.

 

[ken yeang]

Easy for rich people to say.

I am not rich, but I still wouldn't take a Proton.
I rather go for 2nd hand japanase.

 

[k0pi]

Proton is just another car manufacturer headed by, a bunch of douchebags without PASSION for CAR, and didn't really understand the ART OF AUTOMOTIVE.

i've said enuff, but I can agree if those bunch should be replaced with people who likely has those 2 qualities. At least if Proton dies, it'll die with honor like Lancia or Saab. But in current position, it's just living no different than British's Reliant and Russia's LADA, and may die in disgrace like Rover.

 

[stupidcar]

Proton is just another car manufacturer headed by, a bunch of douchebags without PASSION for CAR, and didn't really understand the ART OF AUTOMOTIVE.

i've said enuff, but I can agree if those bunch should be replaced with people who likely has those 2 qualities. At least if Proton dies, it'll die with honor like Lancia or Saab. But in current position, it's just living no different than British's Reliant and Russia's LADA, and may die in disgrace like Rover.

Passion for car OR money?

 

[twistedichc]

Passion for car OR money?

like tuah & preve, passion for design is tuah (salute the designer), passion for money is preve (damn the man) in the end, true not