New Waja - Ultimate Fake

[peterj]

if that persona-R got 270hp.... nobody willing to buy evos already la.... i personally think if that happen, it would be 10years after for a ori proton with 279 hp..

 

[aja]

producing around 270hp with 350Nm of torque..thats wut i read thru paultan lorr..

Very impossible lah..where can 1.6 produce up to 350NM torque?. Must be stock car boosting 1.5 or 2.0bar all the way. Somemore Proton..

 

[karl_razlie]

correct real racer will buy inspira 1.8 manual...same bore, just find 2.0 stroker kit from proton...n itz car price cheaper too than 2.0 got no problem in gbox like cvt version.....kekekee then put racing clutch with short shifter...:) i like....

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that mivec got variable lift n timing or timing only? both intake & exhaust or intake only?

if i not mistaken Mivec and Vtec they used same system (so power very near) not like those follower from T, H and N- VVT la, VVTI and so on....but no power or not enough power hahaha

MIVEC (Mitsubishi Innovative Valve timing Electronic Control system)
MIVEC, as with other similar systems, varies the timing of the intake and exhaust camshafts which increases the power and torque output over a broad engine speed range while also being able to help spool a turbocharger more quickly.

Operation

Some types of variable valve control systems optimize power and torque by varying valve opening times and/or duration. Some of these valve control systems optimize performance at low and mid-range engine speeds. Others focus on enhancing only high-rpm power. MIVEC system provides both of these benefits by controlling valve timing and lift. The basic operation of the MIVEC system is altering the cam profiles and thus tailoring engine performance in response to driver input.[8]
In essence, MIVEC serves the same function as "swapping cams", something that car racers might do when modifying older-design engines to produce more power. However, such swaps come with a compromise - generally yielding either greater low-end torque or more high-end horsepower, but not both. MIVEC achieves both goals. With MIVEC, the "cam swap" occurs automatically at a fixed Revolutions per minute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. The cam switch operation is transparent to the driver, who is simply rewarded with a smooth flow of power.[8]
Two distinct cam profiles are used to provide two engine modes: a low-speed mode, consisting of low-lift cam profiles; and a high-speed mode. The low-lift cams and rocker arms - which drive separate intake valves - are positioned on either side of a centrally located high-lift cam. Each of the intake valves is operated by a low-lift cam and rocker arm, while placing a T-lever between them allows the valves to follow the action of the high-lift cam.[8]
At low speeds, The T-lever's wing section floats freely, enabling the low-lift cams to operate the valves. The intake rocker arms contain internal pistons, which are retained by springs in a lowered position while the engine speed is below the MIVEC switchover point, to avoid contacting the high-lift T-shaped levers. At high speeds, hydraulic pressure elevates the hydraulic pistons, causing the T-lever to push against the rocker arm, which in turn makes the high-lift cam operate the valves.[8]
In summary, MIVEC switches to the higher cam profile as engine speed increases, and drops back to the lower cam profile as engine speed decreases. The reduced valve overlap in low-speed mode provides stable idling, while accelerated timing of the intake valve's closing reduces backflow to improve volumetric efficiency, which helps increase engine output as well as reduce lift friction. High-speed mode takes advantage of the pulsating intake effect created by the mode's high lift and retarded timing of intake valve closure. The resulting reduced pumping loss of the larger valve overlap yields higher power output and a reduction in friction. The low- and high-speed modes overlap for a brief period, boosting torque.[8]
From the Mitsubishi 4B1 engine - Wikipedia, the free [email]encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Mitsubishi_4B11_engine.jpg[/email]" class="image" title="4B11 in a Mitsubishi Galant Fortis (8th generation Mitsubishi Lancer)">thumb/6/6b/Mitsubishi_4B11_engine.jpg/250px-Mitsubishi_4B11_engine.jpg engine family onward, MIVEC has evolved into a Continuous variable valve timing - Wikipedia, the free [email]encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Merge-arrow.svg[/email]" class="image">thumb/a/aa/Merge-arrow.svg/50px-Merge-arrow.svg.png (CVVT) system (dual VVT on intake and exhaust valves).[9] Many older implementations only vary the valve timing (the amount of time per engine revolution that the intake port is open) and not the lift. Timing is continuously independently controlled to provide four optimized engine-operating modes:[9]

• Under most conditions, to ensure highest fuel efficiency, valve overlap is increased to reduce pumping losses. The exhaust valve opening timing is retarded for higher expansion ratio, enhancing fuel economy.
• When maximum power is demanded (high engine speed and load), intake valve closing timing is retarded to synchronize the intake air pulsations for larger air volume.
• Under low-speed, high load, MIVEC ensures optimal torque delivery with the intake valve closing timing advanced to ensure sufficient air volume. At the same time, the exhaust valve opening timing is retarded to provide a higher expansion ratio and improved efficiency.
• At idle, valve overlap is eliminated to stabilize combustion.

 

[m@ttz]

lets buy it n make it become evoX... :)

 

[kairigi]

Congrats to the old waja owners who couldnt look 100% Lancer. Now's your chance.

 

[Boonkae]

dixoncrm ... maybe its bad news for you ...
But what about those that can't afford lancer gt ???
To them ... its a very very good news to be able to buy with cheaper price lor ...
The only thing you can do now is to sell your car if you fell being cheated by Mitsubishi & never buy any Mitsubishi car lor ...

 

[EvolutionZ]

went shopping at proton outlet opposite IOI mall, puchong.
the SA told me quite some info bout the Inspira:-
- nappa leather -2.0
- bodykit - 2.0
- onboard display - 1.8 & 2.0
- mivec engine
- magnesium paddle shift
- rain ＆light sensor
- anti trap power window
- surround acoustic speaker with upgraded stereo system
- 138hp & 150hp
- 6 star japan crash test
- reinforced impact safety evolution - improved on chassis rigidity
- abs & ebd (4 sensors)
- rims size down to 16 inches with special size 205/60/R16 Conti contact CC5 wet & dry tires

many more attractive features and most of it carry over from Lancer GT. cant remember all and sorry if i wrote it wrongly. hahaha...i am poor at technical and poor memory too.
but the SA in the branch showroom are great. they explains well and according to them, if u book within this month, they offer free 50000km service (including parts & labor). they can deliver as good as Nov 2010.
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[duck_killer99]

hehe, isn't a shame to own a proton??? juz wondering.....!!!!

 

[archonixm]

From my view, Malaysian is generally doesn't value Proton as much as the Japanese do, I don't think Mitsubishi will ever exchange their Lancer model with Exora and Gen.2 if these two models doesn't have any values in it.

Even the japs can see the goodness in exora and gen.2 design, y can't we? Don't you think they had to think it thoroughly before deciding for their model exchange? Mitsu aren't stupid.

It isn't a shame to own proton in the mitsu eyes because they are going to market exora & gen.2. Even if they re-badge exora, it stills a proton design, and I'm sure the japanese does know this before buying it. If they think nobody going to buy it if they market it in Japan, they will never agree to this.

U guys r just disrespecting Proton, its not that bad u know.

 

[duck_killer99]

i dun feel a shame bcoz i own a proton's.

 

[onyet]

proton???ermmm

 

[PowerMonster]

I love my Persona

It handles better than any same class Toyota or Honda

Yes occasionally its does gives some problems, but what car dont? I can live with it.

Go check out other make problems too from forum like Altis, Myvi, Civic ... then only pass judgement

Will be checking out the Inspira asap !

 

[xtremeleo]

i luv how the new-gen proton handles sir, superb imo

 

[PocketRocket]

i think this will sell quite well, afterall, it derived from a lancerGT

i foresee our roads filled with Inspira's like wira/perdana

 

[artworkz]

i most kesian is not GT onwer, but the fella who convert they waja to evoX!!! hahaha

myvi and inspira sell well not because marketing strategy but protection from gov.
NOTE: aston martin rebadge iQ but aston martin put luxury n even better than ori iQ. more important, cygnet sell on `fair market`!!!

 

[lanevo6]

To Ori GT owner.............its sad but true at least you still own an Mitsu.
Even Waja wanna be evo, wira wanna be evo or lancer that's their right and likes.
Re-bagde is good for marketing and sales to make higher profit margin. (Import duty vs discount)
But already having these models here and rebagde is not fair IMO.

Lot of people complain(price&quality) but end of the day they still buy Proton(Wira&Waja) how many on the road??
I choose a second hand civic compare to a brand new Waja/Wira before having my evo and i think i did the right choice and never regret.

I think PROTON have to change their name...........What Nasional car??? Proud of your national cars!!
Saga,Gen2 and Waja only brand as Proton lah.

Why Singapore did not waste time producing their own car ?? They have all it takes but just wonder why?

 

[TomicaGTR]

I never lively see the new waja but looking at photos in internet and media, I think the mitsu lancer is much much more attractive compared to new waja. From there, i guess the price difference is reasonably justified. Probably new waja owners should spend more if they want to get par with mitsu lancer. And those who owns Evo X halfcut, just prepare for d demand..

 

[mkdreamervl]

LoL i own a Proton because i can only afford a Proton....

 

[mynnDAWG]

kudos to Proton!

MALAYSIA BOLEH!

 

[altimi]

Malaysia Boleh!!!

Proton Boleh!!!

Lancer owner can lapik their butt with bantal suapaya tak sakit sangat!!!! LOL