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The SAFC NEO marks the newest edition to the world famous Super AFC line of piggy back fuel controllers. Building upon the powerful SAFC II, the AFC NEO has taken piggy back style fuel control to a new level. The AFC NEO boasts an incredible 16 points of user definable fuel correction. VTEC control has also been incorporated for Honda/Acura applications. A complete monitor mode is also available to keep the driver/tuner informed of critical engine data.
Features include:
- Completely new case design
- Compact design
- Incorporates both AFC and VAFC functions in one unit
- 16 point fuel correction
- Color FED display
- User defined button and background colors
- Inverted "anti-glare" screen
Key functions include:
MONITOR MODE-
* RPM
* Throttle
* Battery voltage
* Correction %
* Air flow %
* Pressure
* Karmann
* VTEC
SETTING MODE-
* Air map
* Air map graph
* Throttle point
* Deceleration air
* VTEC control
* VTEC unmatch
ETC MODE-
* Model select
* Mode select
* Car select
* Sensor select
* Analog scale
* Warning set
* Display set
* Sensor check
CONCEPT:
High resolution fuel control with integrated VTEC control.
CHARACTERISTICS:
Revolutionary color FED display easily customized by the user.
The SAFC NEO marks the newest edition to the world famous Super AFC line of piggy back fuel controllers. Building upon the powerful SAFC II, the AFC NEO has taken piggy back style fuel control to a new level. The AFC NEO boasts an incredible 16 points of user definable fuel correction. VTEC control has also been incorporated for Honda/Acura applications. A complete monitor mode is also available to keep the driver/tuner informed of critical engine data.
Features include:
- Completely new case design
- Compact design
- Incorporates both AFC and VAFC functions in one unit
- 16 point fuel correction
- Color FED display
- User defined button and background colors
- Inverted "anti-glare" screen
Key functions include:
MONITOR MODE-
* RPM
* Throttle
* Battery voltage
* Correction %
* Air flow %
* Pressure
* Karmann
* VTEC
SETTING MODE-
* Air map
* Air map graph
* Throttle point
* Deceleration air
* VTEC control
* VTEC unmatch
ETC MODE-
* Model select
* Mode select
* Car select
* Sensor select
* Analog scale
* Warning set
* Display set
* Sensor check
CONCEPT:
High resolution fuel control with integrated VTEC control.
CHARACTERISTICS:
Revolutionary color FED display easily customized by the user.
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The Power FC proudly stands as A'PEXi's answer to the constraints and limitations associated with most piggy-back style fuel controllers. The Power FC is a complete, stand alone, total engine management system capable of handling virtually anything thrown in its path. From multiple point fuel and ignition control to VTEC engagement (Honda applications) and boost settings, the Power FC is capable of accommodating even the most demanding performance enthusiasts.
Currently available exclusively through Power Excel Shops the Power FC replaces the factory ECU and controls all vital engine parameters (Off road use only, no OBD-II). Installation is as easy as replacing the factory ECU. (Some minor rewiring is required on select vehicles). The factory engine harness does not need to be replaced and all critical accessories such as air conditioning continue to function. By using the optional FC COMMANDER, the user can adjust and modify a wide range of settings. Since there is no need to upgrade ROM chips or modify ECU's, the factory ECU can be kept by the original user.
The Power FC operates off of three Main Menus. These menus are: Monitor, Setting, and ETC.
In Monitor Mode, the Commander can display up to 10 parameters of data in real time. Monitor Mode can display:
Engine RPM
Ignition Timing
Vehicle Speed
Air Flow Voltage (Pressure Sensor Voltage)
Injector Duty Cycle
Boost
Knocking Level
Battery Voltage
Intake Air Temp
Water Temp
In addition, there are 4 display patterns allowing 1-8 parameters to be shown on screen simultaneously. The data displays in numerical real time values with the option of a real time 10 second graph display. Peak Hold values and Display Hold functions only require the touch of a button. The Map Trace Mode allows Ghost Map Tracing of the Fuel Correction and Ignition Timing maps. This allows the user to visually see what point of the map is being used in real time. The Ghost Map Trace function leaves markers on the used portions of the map for easy reference.
Setting Mode allows full access to the 20x20 ignition timing and fuel correction maps. The user can adjust any portion of this map in 5x5 sections. Air flow correction values can be entered for vehicles upgrading air flow meters. Injector pulse correction menu is used when upgrading injectors. The Acceleration Enrichment Correction function improves response under hard and sudden acceleration. The Cranking Fuel Injection menu corrects the amount of fuel delivered when the engine is being cranked, or when the water temperature is cold. A separate Water Temp menu allows fuel correction according to water temperature. The RPM menu allows rev limiter settings and idle RPM levels. Access menus also vary according to specific applications. Rotary engine Power FC's accommodate leading and trailing ignition maps. Honda engines Power FC's allow for VTEC control. Complete boost control is possible by using the optional Boost Control Kit. Changing data is easy: just access the desired point on the map or data, and push the FC COMMANDER keys in the appropriate direction.
The ETC Menu contains utility parameters such as: version information, LCD screen brightness, and initialization of all data. In addition, the ETC Mode allows the user to monitor all factory sensors through one screen. This screen can tell the user if any sensor is in use or malfunctioning.
The Power FC also comes preprogrammed with several base maps. (Currently with Japan Domestic Market Vehicle Maps, minor initial tuning may be required. Please contact your authorized Power Excel shop for more information.) This makes the initial tuning process much quicker. As with all other fuel controllers, the POWER FC should be tuned on a dynomometer by a trained professional. A high grade air/ fuel ratio monitor is also recommended during tuning to ensure best results.
* CURRENTLY ONLY AVAILABLE THROUGH POWER EXCEL AUTHORIZED DEALERS
Please refer to our Dealers section for a complete list of Power Excel authorized dealers
FC COMMANDER (part of Power FC)
The FC COMMANDER is a hand held controller designed to allow access to the vital parameters within the Power FC. The unit allows a wide range of data modification through its large back lit LCD display. The unit has been designed so that one finger can control a wide array of data. Once connected, the A'PEXi logo will appear in the screen taking the user to the Main Menu. From here, the user can access the three Main Menus (Monitor, Setting, Etc.) The FC COMMANDER "communicates" with the Power FC control unit thereby creating one of the first interactive user friendly fuel management systems.
BOOST CONTROL KIT (part of Power FC)
The Boost Control Kit is an optional kit designed to control boost through the Power FC. Simple connection to the Power FC allows the user to access a full self-learning boost controller. The Power FC allows up to 4 different boost presets for any stage of driving. The high grade solenoid valve is the same one used in our Super AVC-R boost controller. As with the S-AVCR, the Boost control kit allows increased boost response and boost stability at high RPM's.
CONCEPT:
A'PEX's answer to the constraints and limitations associated with most piggy-back style fuel controllers.
CHARACTERISTICS:
Replaces the factory ECU and controls all engine parameters.
The Power FC proudly stands as A'PEXi's answer to the constraints and limitations associated with most piggy-back style fuel controllers. The Power FC is a complete, stand alone, total engine management system capable of handling virtually anything thrown in its path. From multiple point fuel and ignition control to VTEC engagement (Honda applications) and boost settings, the Power FC is capable of accommodating even the most demanding performance enthusiasts.
Currently available exclusively through Power Excel Shops the Power FC replaces the factory ECU and controls all vital engine parameters (Off road use only, no OBD-II). Installation is as easy as replacing the factory ECU. (Some minor rewiring is required on select vehicles). The factory engine harness does not need to be replaced and all critical accessories such as air conditioning continue to function. By using the optional FC COMMANDER, the user can adjust and modify a wide range of settings. Since there is no need to upgrade ROM chips or modify ECU's, the factory ECU can be kept by the original user.
The Power FC operates off of three Main Menus. These menus are: Monitor, Setting, and ETC.
In Monitor Mode, the Commander can display up to 10 parameters of data in real time. Monitor Mode can display:
Engine RPM
Ignition Timing
Vehicle Speed
Air Flow Voltage (Pressure Sensor Voltage)
Injector Duty Cycle
Boost
Knocking Level
Battery Voltage
Intake Air Temp
Water Temp
In addition, there are 4 display patterns allowing 1-8 parameters to be shown on screen simultaneously. The data displays in numerical real time values with the option of a real time 10 second graph display. Peak Hold values and Display Hold functions only require the touch of a button. The Map Trace Mode allows Ghost Map Tracing of the Fuel Correction and Ignition Timing maps. This allows the user to visually see what point of the map is being used in real time. The Ghost Map Trace function leaves markers on the used portions of the map for easy reference.
Setting Mode allows full access to the 20x20 ignition timing and fuel correction maps. The user can adjust any portion of this map in 5x5 sections. Air flow correction values can be entered for vehicles upgrading air flow meters. Injector pulse correction menu is used when upgrading injectors. The Acceleration Enrichment Correction function improves response under hard and sudden acceleration. The Cranking Fuel Injection menu corrects the amount of fuel delivered when the engine is being cranked, or when the water temperature is cold. A separate Water Temp menu allows fuel correction according to water temperature. The RPM menu allows rev limiter settings and idle RPM levels. Access menus also vary according to specific applications. Rotary engine Power FC's accommodate leading and trailing ignition maps. Honda engines Power FC's allow for VTEC control. Complete boost control is possible by using the optional Boost Control Kit. Changing data is easy: just access the desired point on the map or data, and push the FC COMMANDER keys in the appropriate direction.
The ETC Menu contains utility parameters such as: version information, LCD screen brightness, and initialization of all data. In addition, the ETC Mode allows the user to monitor all factory sensors through one screen. This screen can tell the user if any sensor is in use or malfunctioning.
The Power FC also comes preprogrammed with several base maps. (Currently with Japan Domestic Market Vehicle Maps, minor initial tuning may be required. Please contact your authorized Power Excel shop for more information.) This makes the initial tuning process much quicker. As with all other fuel controllers, the POWER FC should be tuned on a dynomometer by a trained professional. A high grade air/ fuel ratio monitor is also recommended during tuning to ensure best results.
* CURRENTLY ONLY AVAILABLE THROUGH POWER EXCEL AUTHORIZED DEALERS
Please refer to our Dealers section for a complete list of Power Excel authorized dealers
FC COMMANDER (part of Power FC)
The FC COMMANDER is a hand held controller designed to allow access to the vital parameters within the Power FC. The unit allows a wide range of data modification through its large back lit LCD display. The unit has been designed so that one finger can control a wide array of data. Once connected, the A'PEXi logo will appear in the screen taking the user to the Main Menu. From here, the user can access the three Main Menus (Monitor, Setting, Etc.) The FC COMMANDER "communicates" with the Power FC control unit thereby creating one of the first interactive user friendly fuel management systems.
BOOST CONTROL KIT (part of Power FC)
The Boost Control Kit is an optional kit designed to control boost through the Power FC. Simple connection to the Power FC allows the user to access a full self-learning boost controller. The Power FC allows up to 4 different boost presets for any stage of driving. The high grade solenoid valve is the same one used in our Super AVC-R boost controller. As with the S-AVCR, the Boost control kit allows increased boost response and boost stability at high RPM's.
CONCEPT:
A'PEX's answer to the constraints and limitations associated with most piggy-back style fuel controllers.
CHARACTERISTICS:
Replaces the factory ECU and controls all engine parameters.
go for standalone coz toyota ECU has embedded fuzzy logic AI... it learns by it own... n u cannt cheat it...
advantage of standalone...
1. ori ECU as a spare...
2. a lot goodies offered by standalone ECU...
advantage of standalone...
1. ori ECU as a spare...
2. a lot goodies offered by standalone ECU...
rinagi said:
brian..really ar.. coz some1 gave me his e-manage..fFOR FREE!! . but its a blue.. last use on rx-8..
i m confused but he told me he use it to cut speed as most product in market in cant fool his traction control . to be honest i dont even know what This piggyback real function hehe.. know its abut fuel oni.. :). i've also ask william "TRIAL" , he doesnt sound encouraging too.. so what will u do if u have choice?coz i m thinking of this.. would u recommend me to sell it off instead and buy HKS-sld2 ?
and if it doesnt cut speed , will it gain much horses or torque ?
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love to have the V-Pro in my car ....:regular_smile:
220mph said:
if u just wan to eliminate the speed cut, use only 'hks sld type 2'. if u wan 2 fine tune ur car and also eliminate speed cut, use F con V Pro. dunno if Apexi Power FC can do the same thing..but one thing to confirm, it can fine tune ur car ..for me i'll go for f con v pro coz u can sell it off later or use back on new car.just change harness. from what i heard, f con v pro is the best standalone ecu from japan. above of that go for MOTEC. (in my point of view apexi power fc need to hav own mapping. correct me if i'm wrong). F con S and F con SZ cant eliminate speed cut for altezza. need to install hks sld type 2.
motec...
this is the trainning course u can buy to tune ur car called version III...
http://www.efi101.com/motec.html
for altezza / any of the 4 cylinders with variable valves phasing tech (VVT; not VTEC) n drive-by-wire; if u would like to eliminate the air flow (replace with 4 throttles)... use M400...
http://www.motec.com/products/ecu/control.htm
con... $$$...
this aftermarket ecu has been recommended by Bill Sherwood from australia...
this is the trainning course u can buy to tune ur car called version III...
http://www.efi101.com/motec.html
for altezza / any of the 4 cylinders with variable valves phasing tech (VVT; not VTEC) n drive-by-wire; if u would like to eliminate the air flow (replace with 4 throttles)... use M400...
http://www.motec.com/products/ecu/control.htm
con... $$$...
this aftermarket ecu has been recommended by Bill Sherwood from australia...
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JaHaX said:
anybody here with V-Pro? need to know where can get it tuned. my car spit black smoke when i floor the paddle. too rich maybe.
heard that some tuner "lock" their maps in the standalone ECUs. if so, how to hack or retuned it?
thanx
DemanG
yep ... contact Willaim TRIAL personally at 012 213 9861.
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