To downpipe OR NOT to downpipe?

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I just want to share some experience of having an aftermarket downpipe which I installed last Saturday.

Before this, I've done some research and some comments I read about having aftermarket downpipe has improved the car performance pretty well. I was sceptical of course. I know our stock downpipe design is not the best but I would not think having it will make a whole world of difference.

When I dyno tuned my car a month ago, my boost capped at 1.2 bar. At that time, we do not know what is the cause, so the tuner told me it could be the stock downpipe issue where else Ah Wah said it's the weak stock actuator. No matter how we crank up the boost, it won't go above 1.2 bar.

A week later, we found out that there's a leaky vacuum pipe. So it's not the downpipe nor weak actuator.

The tuner told me that stock downpipe design is kinda 'flatten' and has a lot of curves and dents. So those whose running bigger turbo with more airflow, will benefit a lot from having an aftermarket downpipe.

My comments: Car car actually felt smoother, more responsive - 'lighter', less turbo lag and of course, more powerful. About more power or not, I plan to send my car to dyno tune again soon. Hoping to see some numbers running aftermarket downpipe + 1.5 bar. Accordingly to Ah Wah, I am hoping to see above 270whp.

So my conclusion: If you're running stock TD04 with boost below 1.3 bar, I think stock downpipe may still be adequate. Any mods like bigger turbo, the more airflow required, the more benefit you get out of having an aftermarket downpipe.

Hope this infomation is helpful.

PS: Downpipe is from HKS for Evo but re-weld to fit Airtrek.
 

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Where got free one bro.. no free lunch in this world la... I tell u next time. :)
 
evos also running on 2.5inch mah.u wan go above 1.2bar u need a external wastegate for bigger flow of exhause.38mm or 40mm should b enauf.if ur downpipe flatten by 50%,yes it effect ur performance.if by 5%,i don think it will affect much.
 
The design of stock downpipe has many curves and 'dents'. It's pre-made that way from the factory. As opposed to aftermarket ones, it's so much bigger. If you ask me the size, I think at least 30% more flow. That's why I can feel the difference.

Yes, this is from Evo one. :)
 
So after this downpipe was installed, did boost increase at all with the existing settings?
 
depends on ur engine build;
below 1.5bar 2.5-2.8inch piping inlet should b sufficient
1.5bar n more 2.8inch to 4inch inlet piping
 
oh really... does ur downpipe eliminate the cat-con? i know cat-con giv alot of restriction..

Nope, cat con still there.

In fact got little boost increase. 0.1 bar more. Hardly noticeable.

Cool, mine was very noticeable. From 2" cat-back to 2.3" cat-back. The boost climbs very fast.

depends on ur engine build;
below 1.5bar 2.5-2.8inch piping inlet should b sufficient
1.5bar n more 2.8inch to 4inch inlet piping

I saw improvement altho I boost 1bar max.
 

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