Old School Cars Discussion

[RENESIS VIII]

Don't you just hate it when owners advertise their cars on mudah as tip top condition but when you go see it its anything but ?
Faced this twice already. Went and see that Mark II last week. The side skirt on the left side is falling off. The upper wind screen trim is missing.
The rear bumper is dented in the middle and coming off a bit on the right side. Then the engine supposed to warm up idle at 1100 rpm then goes down to 800rpm after 2 minutes, but it keeps going at 1100rpm even after 6 minutes.
Then he says I am low balling his car.

Here, read about this story. I've been reading it yesterday. Story about buying old cars and facing problems here and there.
http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=445328

Side skirt can be fixed easily. Wind screen trim maybe difficult to source over here. Rear bumper not sure can fix or not. As for the engine, maybe more hidden problems is awaiting... I do notice one front lamp is tinted yellow while the other is not.

Low balling his car? Did you ask for a price cut? Since it is already like 12900, really can't cut the price much further.

The car looks cool if restored.

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpa1/t51.2885-15/e15/11184527_1476249695998813_982864182_n.jpg

well, expectations kene manage.... thats all i can say :smokin. Have to sabar cari kereta, most units being sold cheaply wont be perfect, they will have their flaws. Best advice i can give you is ask... ask for everything you can about the car, pictures and all that. Looking at cars that old, its going to take a while before you find a nice unit... min took me about 1-2 years i think?

about the warming up bit, if it was a very cold day or its possible the fella either messed with the idel or maybe added some 'stuff' into the car....

So at the end after you purchased your current car, do you think you have found a good deal or bad deal?

 

[alcyon]

Yes i asked for a cut since its not tip top as claimed, and he also said he wants the 17" rims on the car and will give steel rims. Its quite a risk for me to buy this car considering what defects I have yet to detect. One has to also keep in mind this isnt the 1JZ variant, and comes with drum brakes at the rear. If want to put in 1JZ later also puspakom wont allow cause exceed the 25% rule.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Yes i asked for a cut since its not tip top as claimed, and he also said he wants the 17" rims on the car and will give steel rims. Its quite a risk for me to buy this car considering what defects I have yet to detect. One has to also keep in mind this isnt the 1JZ variant, and comes with drum brakes at the rear. If want to put in 1JZ later also puspakom wont allow cause exceed the 25% rule.

After checking online, I notice that the JZX80 series of Mark II doesn't come with a 1.8 litre engine. So what engine is this guy running on?


Check this out. If I have the money, I would get this one. My favorite model among the JZX series cars. Mark II JZX90 with 1JZ-GTE manual.

http://www.mudah.my/1996+Toyota+JZX90+Mark+II+2+5+M+-52334006.htm


Maybe you can view this JZX80? RM10k more but the seller says negotiable. And it has already been swapped to a 1JZ-GTE.

http://www.mudah.my/1995+Toyota+Mark+II+2+5+A+1jz+Twin+Turbo-51675202.htm

 

[alcyon]

After checking online, I notice that the JZX80 series of Mark II doesn't come with a 1.8 litre engine. So what engine is this guy running on?


Check this out. If I have the money, I would get this one. My favorite model among the JZX series cars. Mark II JZX90 with 1JZ-GTE manual.

http://www.mudah.my/1996+Toyota+JZX90+Mark+II+2+5+M+-52334006.htm


Maybe you can view this JZX80? RM10k more but the seller says negotiable. And it has already been swapped to a 1JZ-GTE.

http://www.mudah.my/1995+Toyota+Mark+II+2+5+A+1jz+Twin+Turbo-51675202.htm

Renesis, its not a JZX but a SX. Same chassis but comes with different gearbox, engine,diff. Comes with 4S-FI 1.8 engine. Its actually better for my application as road tax is cheaper and uses less fuel.
Thanks for the link on that ryuuken guy. If i were him i would walk away from the deal early on. I walked away from many deals already..as you know haha.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Renesis, its not a JZX but a SX. Same chassis but comes with different gearbox, engine,diff. Comes with 4S-FI 1.8 engine. Its actually better for my application as road tax is cheaper and uses less fuel.
Thanks for the link on that ryuuken guy. If i were him i would walk away from the deal early on. I walked away from many deals already..as you know haha.

I had forgotten. JZX is the performance chassis isn't it? By the way, how did the Soarer thing goes?

By now I think the Ryuuken guy had pretty much restored his Celica to a good condition. I think he did mentioned that he had extra 10k ready for repairs.

 

[lsm1991]

So at the end after you purchased your current car, do you think you have found a good deal or bad deal?

to be honest? there were alittle hickups along the way, but one should always expect these things when buying cars about 2 decades old . Was already planning to paint the car, so paint condition and little dings didn't really matter all that much. Yeah, only thing that needs doing up is the bodywork and other things are the wear and tear stuff + one little interior bit which i still cannot source!!!!! Engine, well..... i picked this cause evo's are a an easy and legal install (or might install the 6a13tt instead, more power than the evo but not convinced the maintanance will not kill me. Right now it runs fine, so will probably stick with this engine till it dies on me one day...... evos gona cost me a pretty penny.

After checking online, I notice that the JZX80 series of Mark II doesn't come with a 1.8 litre engine. So what engine is this guy running on?

Check this out. If I have the money, I would get this one. My favorite model among the JZX series cars. Mark II JZX90 with 1JZ-GTE manual.

http://www.mudah.my/1996+Toyota+JZX90+Mark+II+2+5+M+-52334006.htm

this car seems... familiar....

 

[alcyon]

I had forgotten. JZX is the performance chassis isn't it? By the way, how did the Soarer thing goes?

By now I think the Ryuuken guy had pretty much restored his Celica to a good condition. I think he did mentioned that he had extra 10k ready for repairs.

Well sakan auto i think wont go lower than 60K so i passed on that. Also that other guy with the first gen soarer isnt talking to me lol and i believe he wont let go for 10K. But even if 10K i am reluctant to buy cause i talked to a auto electrical expert and he also afraid he might not able to connect the wires to make the original dashboard and air con panel work. So I am also passing on this one. The 1st owner made a msitake when swapping out to the turbo engine, he didn't think far ahead. My electrical guy advised that If want to engine swap, keep the original engine and wiring with connectors for reference, and pre label before dismantling. But what happened was the mechanic just swapped over and worry about wiring later, so now our friend the seller is stuck with the car and trying unload this problem to others .

Also, if you look closely, you will notice that the X80 series MK2 and the Z20 soarer looks very simliar, in fact the X80 Mark 2 looks like a 4 door soarer. That's is one of the reasons I like it. if can get one at a good price then I would go for it, If not just wait for a soarer and pay more.

 

[RENESIS VIII]

to be honest? there were alittle hickups along the way, but one should always expect these things when buying cars about 2 decades old . Was already planning to paint the car, so paint condition and little dings didn't really matter all that much. Yeah, only thing that needs doing up is the bodywork and other things are the wear and tear stuff + one little interior bit which i still cannot source!!!!! Engine, well..... i picked this cause evo's are a an easy and legal install (or might install the 6a13tt instead, more power than the evo but not convinced the maintanance will not kill me. Right now it runs fine, so will probably stick with this engine till it dies on me one day...... evos gona cost me a pretty penny.




this car seems... familiar....

Of course one cannot expect a perfect condition car from a car that old. Unless those that are very well maintained but most likely those kind of cars are not for sale, hahahaha.

If you are planning to go for Evo, then I guess your car will be like those Perdana Evo then. FWD Evo. Sorry, I kept forgetting whether is your current engine comes with MIVEC or not.

Well sakan auto i think wont go lower than 60K so i passed on that. Also that other guy with the first gen soarer isnt talking to me lol and i believe he wont let go for 10K. But even if 10K i am reluctant to buy cause i talked to a auto electrical expert and he also afraid he might not able to connect the wires to make the original dashboard and air con panel work. So I am also passing on this one. The 1st owner made a msitake when swapping out to the turbo engine, he didn't think far ahead. My electrical guy advised that If want to engine swap, keep the original engine and wiring with connectors for reference, and pre label before dismantling. But what happened was the mechanic just swapped over and worry about wiring later, so now our friend the seller is stuck with the car and trying unload this problem to others .

Also, if you look closely, you will notice that the X80 series MK2 and the Z20 soarer looks very simliar, in fact the X80 Mark 2 looks like a 4 door soarer. That's is one of the reasons I like it. if can get one at a good price then I would go for it, If not just wait for a soarer and pay more.

Looks like the Soarer plan is off. The first gen Soarer guy is probably afraid of further questioning from you.

Soarer and Mark II/Chaser/Cresta these kind of cars are very much related. Kinda like Laurel and Skyline.

Hope you can find a good example of these cars. Mark II seems more easy to find over here. Chaser I'm not sure. Cresta is very rare.

 

[Izso]

Who wants a Chaser? I got lubang to get the newer and older ones. About 60-80k depending on specs.

And what about the AW11? Any interest?

https://img.ifcdn.com/images/16731bb011a0bc4aa3c81ca543a8a06bab31370e30fa523953a5880bb9b86ea2_1.jpg

 

[RENESIS VIII]

Who wants a Chaser? I got lubang to get the newer and older ones. About 60-80k depending on specs.

And what about the AW11? Any interest?

https://img.ifcdn.com/images/16731bb011a0bc4aa3c81ca543a8a06bab31370e30fa523953a5880bb9b86ea2_1.jpg

The very same Chaser that you reviewed before?

 

[lsm1991]

Of course one cannot expect a perfect condition car from a car that old. Unless those that are very well maintained but most likely those kind of cars are not for sale, hahahaha.

If you are planning to go for Evo, then I guess your car will be like those Perdana Evo then. FWD Evo. Sorry, I kept forgetting whether is your current engine comes with MIVEC or not.

yep mivec model, and yep, if i do go down that route, its got to be a fwd evo, not sure im willing to give up the smoothness of the 6 potter tho... for now around 200hp cukuplah~

 

[marsha1l_v6]

yep mivec model, and yep, if i do go down that route, its got to be a fwd evo, not sure im willing to give up the smoothness of the 6 potter tho... for now around 200hp cukuplah~

bro, what car you driving eh?

6 potter is best at highway and long drive ..evo is tiring to drive it as "NA" for long distance high speed cruise.

anyone got lubang for evo3/lancer variant? planning to jump to awd.

 

[lsm1991]

bro, what car you driving eh?

6 potter is best at highway and long drive ..evo is tiring to drive it as "NA" for long distance high speed cruise.

anyone got lubang for evo3/lancer variant? planning to jump to awd.

haha me? old junk car je~~

original evo3's or any of those with a legal 4wd system will be abit explah...

 

[RENESIS VIII]

yep mivec model, and yep, if i do go down that route, its got to be a fwd evo, not sure im willing to give up the smoothness of the 6 potter tho... for now around 200hp cukuplah~

If it is for me, I rather keep the V6 NA and have that nice sound. Does sound like VQ35DE engine from 350Z although that sounds better. Inline 4 evo engine if want to play, can use other cheaper cars. Since you are planning to buy engine away, might as well do on some other car or something? I believe a car like yours will be a classic 10 or 20 years later. Even better if you retained your engine. Swapped engine does feel a bit incomplete in classic car.

Sounds nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK533TD1jYs

 

[vr2turbo]

You can buy also, now V6 Perdana quite cheap only......lol

 

[lsm1991]

If it is for me, I rather keep the V6 NA and have that nice sound. Does sound like VQ35DE engine from 350Z although that sounds better. Inline 4 evo engine if want to play, can use other cheaper cars. Since you are planning to buy engine away, might as well do on some other car or something? I believe a car like yours will be a classic 10 or 20 years later. Even better if you retained your engine. Swapped engine does feel a bit incomplete in classic car.

haha was also contemplating keeping it stock but someone said; 'you're past that stock line already'

You can buy also, now V6 Perdana quite cheap only......lol

hehe yup

 

[RENESIS VIII]

You can buy also, now V6 Perdana quite cheap only......lol

The maintenance of Perdana V6 is said to be as expensive as Impreza WRX STI. Better get something else. If just as a weekend car that is not going to be used very often, then maybe can?

haha was also contemplating keeping it stock but someone said; 'you're past that stock line already'




hehe yup

Keep stock engine but mod it without changing the characteristics of the original engine too much.

Your exhaust system stock or modded?

 

[lsm1991]

The maintenance of Perdana V6 is said to be as expensive as Impreza WRX STI. Better get something else. If just as a weekend car that is not going to be used very often, then maybe can?

Keep stock engine but mod it without changing the characteristics of the original engine too much.

Your exhaust system stock or modded?

perdana v6, nolah not as high as that, otherwise mine would be absolutely horrible. but its definitely on the high side.

**ehh didnt answer you... exhaust modified alittle bit.... still a silent system, in general

 

[RENESIS VIII]

perdana v6, nolah not as high as that, otherwise mine would be absolutely horrible. but its definitely on the high side.

But previously I remember someone said that in another thread asking about buying WRX STI. If I am not mistaken, it is started by Marshal_V6 himself.

 

[lsm1991]

But previously I remember someone said that in another thread asking about buying WRX STI. If I am not mistaken, it is started by Marshal_V6 himself.

if thats true.... mygod.... goodbye v6, hello evo!!!