New Rifles For Malaysia Armed Forces!!

[satria_95]

erm.... so violent. Can I just have a samurai sword now instead? hahaha

 

[eyong]

erm.... so violent. Can I just have a samurai sword now instead? hahaha

Kill Bill, style? :hmmmm:

 

[Civic-R]

Wah...reli respect all of u guys knowing so much on guns & rmb all the code name.I reli can't rmb the models or watever codes.The closest time i get to know all tis was playing 'Counter-Strike' in cybercafes & i was gunned down like hell.Smtm i not yet even got the chance to use it after buying it coz got 'sniped'.Even the 'price-tag' of the MP5 still ther...not yet removed..

 

[JtuneD]

I want all this weapons from HITMAN!!! hahahahaha..:proud:

http://www.defencetalk.com/pictures/data/4695/medium/Hitman_Arsenal_v1_0.jpg

http://www.defencetalk.com/pictures/data/4695/medium/Hitman_Arsenal_v2_0_by_SigmaEcho.jpg

 

[eyong]

Civic-R: Hey, at least u know what an MP-5 is ... 9mm, made by Heckler & Koch (HK, not Hell's Kitchen) of Germany ...

 

[eyong]

cybernation: You sure ARE a gun freak ... Hahahaha ...

 

[JtuneD]

And this is my all time favourite!!! ( Smith & Wesson 460XVR Revolver .460 Magnum) Being nominated as Gun Of the Year 2007!!

http://www.nrafoundation.org/friends/graphics/07merch/f0710041-detail.jpg

http://z.about.com/d/hunting/1/0/a/G/sw_460xvr_w.jpg

 

[JtuneD]

cybernation: You sure ARE a gun freak ... Hahahaha ...

Yeah....!!!!!

 

[Saga Continue]

sar-21 is great but not sure whether can really perform well in combat or not.....

hmmm....im not sure if the information i got its true....did some cross reference but nothing leads that way....but i have read somewhere that SAR 21 is basically almost similar with Tavor 21......the only difference is there Tavor been used in battle and there is few problem surfaced and repaired.....i do not sure if the development information is given to the Singaporean for their own analysis on SAR 21....that is something which i cant confirmed....

I can't see what's wrong with the Styer ... Can't we just refurbish the guns and use them .... Not like Malaysia is actively engaged is many fronts (or at all).

we can but the cost is more expensive.....there is few shortcut that been made by SME's that make the weapon less durable.....the one that effect most is the jamming of the riffle during constant firing......what they did is usually riffle barrel is forge and heated up then let it could down in liquid silicon before been heat again and cooled again.....this process hardened the carbon on the riffle and make it much more stronger and last longer....but instead of dipping it in hot silicone.....why dont we just used water....and instead of using high impact polymer...which is one of the most cost effective composite material to be used in military...why dont we make it much more cheaper....tupperware plastic also composite material what.....so i think should we trust this SME's again? nope...good decision by gomen to get it manufactured from overseas......but as i said...not this riffle....ive got the report showing the m4's testing by our army.....and the result is not that satisfying....one of the most important one....have u seen in a movie that a soldier carrying m4's deep his gun in water and straight came out of it and shoots......why not...because its not possible.....and that just clean water...how bout stuck it out in mud....pull it up and shoot.....this is worst.....the combustion chamber will rip ya face....

 

[Northiswara]

cybernation,
ur guns looks cool.
i like it.
i got a gun too. waterjet gun. hehe..

 

[links]

have u seen in a movie that a soldier carrying m4's deep his gun in water and straight came out of it and shoots......why not...because its not possible.....and that just clean water...how bout stuck it out in mud....pull it up and shoot.....this is worst.....the combustion chamber will rip ya face....

Saga,
H&K ugraded HK416 is an solution for that, demo shown that it can shoot 3 rounds of magazines without problem when picked up from water , mud and sand.

actually other variants like upgrad our Aug to A3, FN F2000. Seems like bullpup riffle is the new trend.

M4 itself is not bad, but new warzones need multi task riffle where as HK416, AugA3 or FN2000 can do a quick change on the barrel to make it a mid range sniper, normal assault riffle or CQB riffle.

By the way, does msia M4 comes with RIS/RAS system?

 

[eyong]

we can but the cost is more expensive.....there is few shortcut that been made by SME's that make the weapon less durable.....the one that effect most is the jamming of the riffle during constant firing......what they did is usually riffle barrel is forge and heated up then let it could down in liquid silicon before been heat again and cooled again.....this process hardened the carbon on the riffle and make it much more stronger and last longer....but instead of dipping it in hot silicone.....why dont we just used water....and instead of using high impact polymer...which is one of the most cost effective composite material to be used in military...why dont we make it much more cheaper....tupperware plastic also composite material what.....so i think should we trust this SME's again? nope...good decision by gomen to get it manufactured from overseas......but as i said...not this riffle....ive got the report showing the m4's testing by our army.....and the result is not that satisfying....one of the most important one....have u seen in a movie that a soldier carrying m4's deep his gun in water and straight came out of it and shoots......why not...because its not possible.....and that just clean water...how bout stuck it out in mud....pull it up and shoot.....this is worst.....the combustion chamber will rip ya face....

Wow, the first few lines reminded me of a certain car manufacturer I know ... So I presume what, SME is some local company that does refurbication of our rifles? I would have presume the components came straight from Styer itself? I sure have no idea on the details of how things went ...

Even if the gun fires after getting out of the water, I think most likely the second round would not chamber as water would still be clogging the gas chamber for the next round ... Don't know how the military do all sort of sand, dust, mud, and sea-water test thought but I presume they would have tested on a certain specification, criteria and would involve immediate life-fire, right? :hmmmm:

 

[links]

I think this time govetment made the right decision.

The Colt M4 is a good weapon.

It is versatile and modular design weapon.

THe user of the M4 can plug on custom parts to the main body for specific missions, eg sniping, cqb, crowd control, infantry, para, mechanize, etc.

Whether the price we paid for the M4 and wats going to happen later remains to be seen.

Just look at the no. of armed forces around the wold who use the M4 is eanough to solidify the M4 reputation.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/Joe_Looi/M4A1.jpg

ANyhow, I'm bias towards the M4 because I personall love the design of that weapon.

Just wish our govertment would allow BB toy guns. I'd buy the M4 version for damn sure.

The M4 cannot turn into a good sniper, not even a mid range one without big modification. The M16 is more common to convert into sniper or "marksman" shooter via some modification and tune up......for e.g the KAC SR-25 which derived from M16.



cybernation,

I got some of the guns you posted in my BB gun collections....the wilson combat M1911, H&K USP, M9, Benelli M3 shot gun, MP5.....

I have stop collecting the BB gun, but still have the M249 minimi, M700 shotgun combat version with tactical rail, AK47 original and AK47 tactical rail version, FN2000, AK104, MP7, MP5, AWP, P90, G36C, L85A1........


Its really cool toys but too bad cant bring back to msia.....if not i will make sure no thief comes near my home there....



I used to have 3 M4, the M4 SIR, M4 RIS and M4 CQBR but now only left 2 since the M4 RIS total lost in a game earlier on this year.

 

[Northiswara]

u guys want to rob bank kah??
keep showing the gun.

 

[JtuneD]

cybernation,

I got some of the guns you posted in my BB gun collections....the wilson combat M1911, H&K USP, M9, Benelli M3 shot gun, MP5.....

I have stop collecting the BB gun, but still have the M249 minimi, M700 shotgun combat version with tactical rail, AK47 original and AK47 tactical rail version, FN2000, AK104, MP7, MP5, AWP, P90, G36C, L85A1........


Its really cool toys but too bad cant bring back to msia.....if not i will make sure no thief comes near my home there....



I used to have 3 M4, the M4 SIR, M4 RIS and M4 CQBR but now only left 2 since the M4 RIS total lost in a game earlier on this year.

Whou...cool BB gun collection u got there dude!!! But too bad we only can purchase a Paintball gun here in Malaysia that is not cheap!!!

 

[eyong]

The M4 cannot turn into a good sniper, not even a mid range one without big modification. The M16 is more common to convert into sniper or "marksman" shooter via some modification and tune up......for e.g the KAC SR-25 which derived from M16.

Correct, that's why alot of the SF operators in Afghan (a very vast open terrain) reverted back to using the M-14's which fires the 7.62 and have comparable range as the SKS's or AK-47's ...

 

[Saga Continue]

Whou...cool BB gun collection u got there dude!!! But too bad we only can purchase a Paintball gun here in Malaysia that is not cheap!!!

yup....one of my mate made his marker to be a g36 for almost 4grand....

 

[Saga Continue]

Saga,
H&K ugraded HK416 is an solution for that, demo shown that it can shoot 3 rounds of magazines without problem when picked up from water , mud and sand.

yup..yup...i saw the report...but we should get H&K G36....the when the malaysian army did the testing the test 416. G36 and XM8 and surprisingly they like the XM8......but suddenly klua M4.....garu kapla.....but i herd our cost guard already lock down for 416 tho'.......must be a good reasons then....coast guard+water+salt=no m4

actually other variants like upgrad our Aug to A3, FN F2000. Seems like bullpup riffle is the new trend.

seems that it is but i asked most of soldier that i knew they still prefer the conventional set up then bullpup......donno why...its matter of preference i guest.....

By the way, does msia M4 comes with RIS/RAS system?

yup yup....but i dont know izit dovetail or picantiny or weaver.....matter to be seen...

 

[BlackSamurai]

just make sure you are really good with your kanata.

erm.... so violent. Can I just have a samurai sword now instead? hahaha

 

[satria_95]

just make sure you are really good with your kanata.

Dude,
is it katana, or really kanata? I think I'm good with kanima. hahaha just kidding hahaha