b20b+b16a

[eg_08_wa]

hi people...im just wondering if any of you all know how much roughly cost to build a b20b block with b16a head+ gearbox+ecu last time someone tell me amoil can do for less than RM10k.....thanks in advance for any advice

 

[shiroitenshi]

Yup. Saw the quotation from last year, and it was below 10K.. 4.8K was the quote, but I'm not sure if it included all the relevant parts, or you have to buy it seperately.

 

[hattech-v]

if ur current engine is b16a, then i believe it can be done below 2K.. for the very basic setup.

 

[orc3368]

errrrrr want me to give you a quatation????? but install ur self laaa...lol

 

[hattech-v]

DIY at home... kekekke

 

[eg_08_wa]

no at the moment my engine not b16a just stupid 1.5efi i in australia study i got qoute for b20bvtec nearly $10 000 AUD but i go back kl every few month so i think i want to send here just wonderign if cheaper to do or not anyone have amoil number or can recomend some to do?

 

[J101]

a websearch is always convenient
http://www.amoil.com.my/profile.php.htm

best if you can dropby amoil(JC) the next time during your holiday and
have a chat with Jacky and see if you could send it direct to australia with
all the shipping and handling costs.

 

[akuma]

J101,
whoa..now u very fren2 w JC arr??heheh

 

[Oderf]

for the very basic setup it won't be costly...like hattech said around 2K++ only....u'll be using the ori b20b pistons....runnning on a relatively low comp...but its 2L anyway....mildly modded 1.6 vtec won't stand a chance.....ahahaaaa..
but if u wann go serious the money speny is all up to u...almost no limit...

 

[minivan]

Actually... a basic standard 2L conversion is not that powerful... nothing much over a mildly modded b16...

coz a b20 requires a complete job... the simple logic is a bigger block sucks down much more volume of air and fuel mixture. With this, it also would need to release more...

so... headjob has to be comprehensive if you want a more meaningful b20 conversion...

head job would include bigger TB and Intake mani, PnP head, cams with bigger lift and duration... that leads to requiring better valve springs and retainer, adj cam pulleys maybe... then theres the bigger injectors to consider, fuel regulator maybe.... with all that new hardware, you'll want a management or at least a VAFC...

Then theres the exhailing part... properly worked out exhaust piping... usually around 2.5"...

Then theres work to the block itself. After the machining of fit it to the b16 head... you want proper compression, custom pistons are needed... for reliability you may consider the need for oil squitters, block guard, better con rod and con rod bearings...

a b20 conversion requires a complete job... thats why you sometimes you hear stories of b20s kena tapau...

 

[J101]

long term business my friend :)

J101,
whoa..now u very fren2 w JC arr??heheh

 

[orc3368]

long term business my friend :)

haiya not in peninsular he has fren,,,here sabah also got ooo...all top mechanics

 

[shiroitenshi]

Actually... a basic standard 2L conversion is not that powerful... nothing much over a mildly modded b16...

coz a b20 requires a complete job... the simple logic is a bigger block sucks down much more volume of air and fuel mixture. With this, it also would need to release more...

so... headjob has to be comprehensive if you want a more meaningful b20 conversion...

head job would include bigger TB and Intake mani, PnP head, cams with bigger lift and duration... that leads to requiring better valve springs and retainer, adj cam pulleys maybe... then theres the bigger injectors to consider, fuel regulator maybe.... with all that new hardware, you'll want a management or at least a VAFC...

Then theres the exhailing part... properly worked out exhaust piping... usually around 2.5"...

Then theres work to the block itself. After the machining of fit it to the b16 head... you want proper compression, custom pistons are needed... for reliability you may consider the need for oil squitters, block guard, better con rod and con rod bearings...

a b20 conversion requires a complete job... thats why you sometimes you hear stories of b20s kena tapau...

Isn't that what B20 is all about? You can built it up slowly, and upgrade parts along the way.. if K20, 50K is the price of entry + halfcut + mounts and other relevant parts. Adoiiiiii!

 

[orc3368]

hey shiro why don't you go and find out how the thailand ppl setup thier cars???heard they are much more crazy bout this thing...maybe can learn something new????

 

[shiroitenshi]

Got view before.. they use a lot of 'custom' parts (a.k.a cap ayam). Some are powerful, but not lasting. Not all like that.. some nice hondas over there too, but most of the ones I saw.. aiyoh!!! Custom parts all over with rough welding here and there.

Somemore, I think they don't need to bother with JPJ like we have to, so they can use racing parts, and still not get hassled by JPJ and police.
If really on a budget, maybe can consider their methodslah.

For me, power limited never mind, as long as daily drivable.. If not lasting, no point doing it for me.

 

[V8_nutter]

In my opinion, custom parts is the way to go. To have a fast B20,,these parts needs to custom, whole exhaust system & intake manifold. By customizing these parts, we can "tune" the car the way we like.

For the aftermarket products (exhaust & intake) do give horsepower, but we cant tweak the powerband.

 

[V8_nutter]

Actually... a basic standard 2L conversion is not that powerful... nothing much over a mildly modded b16...

coz a b20 requires a complete job... the simple logic is a bigger block sucks down much more volume of air and fuel mixture. With this, it also would need to release more...

so... headjob has to be comprehensive if you want a more meaningful b20 conversion...

head job would include bigger TB and Intake mani, PnP head, cams with bigger lift and duration... that leads to requiring better valve springs and retainer, adj cam pulleys maybe... then theres the bigger injectors to consider, fuel regulator maybe.... with all that new hardware, you'll want a management or at least a VAFC...

Then theres the exhailing part... properly worked out exhaust piping... usually around 2.5"...

Then theres work to the block itself. After the machining of fit it to the b16 head... you want proper compression, custom pistons are needed... for reliability you may consider the need for oil squitters, block guard, better con rod and con rod bearings...

a b20 conversion requires a complete job... thats why you sometimes you hear stories of b20s kena tapau...

B20 relies on these things to make power,,,,such as a Good Cam match with good head port + intake + exhaust tuning. B20 with stock cam will choke out early within the RPM.

For the exhaust, saying that b20 requires 2.5 inch piping is a "layman" kind of thingking. Tuners will set/fabricate the exhaust base on compression & setup,,,not cc.

 

[soulfly]

In my opinion, custom parts is the way to go. To have a fast B20,,these parts needs to custom, whole exhaust system & intake manifold. By customizing these parts, we can "tune" the car the way we like.

For the aftermarket products (exhaust & intake) do give horsepower, but we cant tweak the powerband.

shouldn't different type of header setup leads to different kind of powerband?

 

[minivan]

For the exhaust, saying that b20 requires 2.5 inch piping is a "layman" kind of thingking. Tuners will set/fabricate the exhaust base on compression & setup,,,not cc.

of course it not based on cc...!! a non-mivec 1.6 satria would definately have different spec exhaust than a b16 honda... and of course its based on setup of engine, and even on things like how a driver wants the engine to respond...

thats why i said 'usually 2.5' ... i never said it was a hard and fast rule...

and dude... its 'thinking'.... not 'thingking'... !!!

 

[minivan]

Isn't that what B20 is all about? You can built it up slowly, and upgrade parts along the way.. if K20, 50K is the price of entry + halfcut + mounts and other relevant parts. Adoiiiiii!

yeah... its what playing cars and modding them is all about actually...

all i'm saying is, just becoz u got a b16 head and b20 block working together, it doesnt mean you have a car that super duper quick yet...