Greddy Emanage, Ultimate & V-Manage

[2ydotcom]

friends...

this is wat i've done...

4g93 sohc auto...
remove all auto wiring...(convert to manual...)
by passed airflow sensor & all vacume sensors
only left knock sensor, wire to distributer, TPS & to fuel injector...
use standart ECU without mod...

question is can E-manage work on my engine...
i live at penang area...
can any body help me on this...

more detail
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[ecupro]

2ydotcom,
You quote :
"4g93 sohc auto...
remove all auto wiring...(convert to manual...)
by passed airflow sensor & all vacume sensors
only left knock sensor, wire to distributer, TPS & to fuel injector...
use standart ECU without mod..."

Engine can start even without "The Blue"
But, in this case, you will have engine check light on and you put the ecu in "limb home".
That mean, for normal car, they have to go to workshop.
and, the power will drop.
and, airflow sensor is very important on Mitsubishi like 4G93,4G91, EVO I~9

Good Luck

 

[2ydotcom]

i already done it... start to mod around january & the car still running till to day... no prob with ECU or engine... yes its tru that engine check light will turn on & it always to my car... the performance increase more than 30% estimate... have more than 140hp...
the thing is i wanna upgrade my engine managment sys... so that the can support more fuel at end of rpm (6.8k rpm) found that at 6k rpm not as fast as from 4K rpm to 6k rpm...

 

[ecupro]

Hemmmmmm....very funny!

Normally, if check engine light is on, the ecu detect some sensors wrong, it will cut some power in order to safe the engine. ( Ignition also retart a bit )

and Now, you said the engine gain power to 30 %...??????

Please correct me if i am wrong.

Good Luck

 

[2ydotcom]

ya its tru....
it gain more power....
if put back airflow sensor it will having prob. such as hard to tuning...(the power is lembab)
u can view attachment from preveus reply as it was under front bonet thing of my car...
now i can hit 6800 rpm for 1,2,3 & 4 gear... for 5th cannot... donno y... but it alittle slower than mivec...
i know it seem not real... but it's tru...

 

[cuscostrutbrace]

I also confuse with this setup...maybe you should try prof..what do u think

 

[acbc]

Maybe ur airflow sensor kaput? Try another. I too got CE light whenever engine bay is hot or idling is low... suspect airflow either dirty or kaput. Tmw will try new airflow sensor.

 

[Jibong]

guys..need help here...i have a question about e-manage on mivec turbo. is it suitable? do i need air flow sensor to make it work? cheers.

 

[ecupro]

Jibong,
You quote:
"guys..need help here...i have a question about e-manage on mivec turbo. is it suitable? do i need air flow sensor to make it work?"

Your information not enough.

I think you engine is 4G93T with Mivec "Head" with 4G93T ecu and so call Mivec Controler ( to active Mivec ) OR

I think you engine is Mivec ( using map sensor ) with Mivec ecu and bolt on turbo ( may be MAX 0.4 bar or 6 psi.

So, please.....
Otherwise, grandmother story....( very...very long and finally come to the point )....he...he...he

 

[2ydotcom]

nop....
i'm not using the airflow...
mine does not use that....
i & my friend have done some xperiment to my wiring...
the only socket left are to TPS, knock sensor, injector & distributer....
other cannot function...
already ask the xpert at penang....
the answer it nothing can work on it... (e-manage, SAFC 1/2, FCD) i donno about FC comander... can any1 advice...

 

[ecupro]

2ydotcom,
You quote :
"the only socket left are to TPS, knock sensor, injector & distributer....
other cannot function...
already ask the xpert at penang...."

Emmm.....Did you xpert check on the diagnostic code ? ( don't give me the ans that they don't have the diag. tools...Thanks...he....he....he )

Sorry...sorry....ah...keep on posting, so that, we can help you out.

Good Luck.

 

[cuscostrutbrace]

normally ecu have to get 2 info to determine the fuel delivery,that is rpm and load(normally airflow or map),i one of it is not there,engine cannot run well,i suspect u run the load using tps..

 

[2ydotcom]

actually my engine run well & much better than before... cannot do diagnostic, need airflow socket rite to do that... i don have it... no electronic vacume left... all bye... bye... done have work on my engine... actually already put all confifuration back... but heavy black smoke came out thru ekzos... so stay with the current 1...
anyway wat can be detect by diagnostic...
so the pening thing is... reason behind that wanna install e-manage is to remove RPM cut...
since FCD & SAFC cannot work... but it turn to be the same with e-manage... all things cannot work... i'm mod my engine to support high rpm...
can any body sudjes anything...

 

[Jibong]

hehe..sorry for my lack of information....just testing if this thread still active or not...ok my current engine is 4g92 mivec 1.6 and planning on putting a bolt on turbo on it. all internals are stock. thinking of buying e-manage blue since its the cheapest piggy so far but my mech said something like e-manage did not have mivec map, code cannot find..bla bla bla. since my knowledege in this management stuff is tadika level, i would like to know what's your opinion on that. is it really e-manage did not have the suitability for mivec?

 

[2ydotcom]

hehe..sorry for my lack of information....just testing if this thread still active or not...ok my current engine is 4g92 mivec 1.6 and planning on putting a bolt on turbo on it. all internals are stock. thinking of buying e-manage blue since its the cheapest piggy so far but my mech said something like e-manage did not have mivec map, code cannot find..bla bla bla. since my knowledege in this management stuff is tadika level, i would like to know what's your opinion on that. is it really e-manage did not have the suitability for mivec?

i'm not good with electronic but if wanna put turbo... u better have GSR 1.8 piston first... that is wat my mech said... can ask people who tuning VTEC turbo for more detail i think...

 

[ecupro]

Jibong,
Bro,
Since this is a stock engine, you max boost will be 0.4 bar or 6 psi.
You better have A/F tools to tune your engine and you have to retart little bit on your ignition when boost come on.

May be 140db can help you out.( I think he stay in Johor, so may be e-mail or post )

Good Luck.

 

[140dB]

yes its tru that engine check light will turn on & it always to my car... the performance increase more than 30% estimate... have more than 140hp...
the thing is i wanna upgrade my engine managment sys... so that the can support more fuel at end of rpm (6.8k rpm) found that at 6k rpm not as fast as from 4K rpm to 6k rpm...

as th prof has said, ur ecu is in 'limp home' mode. i wouldnt be surprise to see ur raditor fan running continously too.

140hp? how u know? did u dyno b4? if by removing things get higher hp most manufacturer will 'water down' their stock cars! save money and get better spec jo!

w/o air flow sensor how u wanna tune? all standalone need to use airflow or map for fine tuning. read FINE tuning. u r now running on a limp home map. which is slightly detuned. Pls get a working airflow and see ur hp and fc improve. even a 4g92/93 stock maf doesnt pose any significant restriction till 180hp. past that there is a very very slight improvement running a map setup (like 1hp or 2hp difference only).

6.8krpm not enuff fuel? u sure? have u plugged in an o2 to check lambda? w/o the airflow and ecu in limp home, i suspect ur tuning TOO MUCH FUEL bro heheh.

4-6krpm faster that 6-6.8krpm. dats normal unless u change to high (>272) cam.

putting emanage will not remove rpm cut. u planning to build a high rev engine? balance the block and flywheel first. 10-11krpm will send most conrods, cranks and flywheel straight out the block. hopefully the flywheel doesnt slice u in half, starting from between ur legs (remember where ur gearbox?).

just a side comment. last time i dynoed a kelisa and a ck lancer w/o the intake pipe, it made less hp than b4.

Jibong,
i've already replied to jibong in another thread of his. its not like emanage wouldnt work. it will. u will get high hp. u will be fast. just that transition for fuelling not so smooth during mivec activation, also during part throttle boosting. this is just my gut feeling after installed emanage in my 4g13 turbo. i havent done a mivec turbo b4, so i really cant say for sure. . my suggestion is to dyno rechip since ur ecu can do that. then fine tune using safc or emanage. this would be better. make sure u get a map sensor for the emanage, or tuning will be a biatch....

 

[ecupro]

140db,
You are GOOD, you can read my mine.

2ydotcom,
Suggest change the "current" wire into "stock wire". ( please don't cut here and cut there, or by-pass here and there or cut and paste. Bro, this is not a Window 95..98...Xp...he...he...he )
Please replace a good air flow sensor and ask so call "Xpet" in penang, and use diag. tool to check any mising sensor, or MAY BE YOUR ECU ALREADY "PASS AWAY"

 

[shfish]

Guys,
Need help! Currently using Emanage Blue. My engines knocks especially when the air-cond is turned on and going up an incline. Where do i tune in the Emanage to solve this problem. Heard from somewhere that retarding the ignition timing and increasing the fuel would help.

 

[ecupro]

Sifish,
Bro,
Without "the blue", the stock ecu should be work on air-cond without problem.
Please use diag. tool to check it out first.( on your stock ecu )
Perhaps someone "tune" or turn your distributor in order to prove how good "the blue" is. ( Too much advance )
The distributor is act like a "base" timming, some where 10 degree for NA. Once the base is up or advance, all the ignition map table also up too.

Well, advance wisely.