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Proton Saga / Iswara
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jcn9690 said:
with all the PU replica of course lo, damn those PU makers haha but at least if we accident can buy replacement parts hohoho :regular_smile:
bro prince of speed,
they say that x1r is good...can consider to buy...i dunno the price.... but for me... currently i have not much performance part in my saga.....
my question to anyone is.... should i drop in k&n filter to the standard filter or should i take out the plastic piece (sardin can) and put the connect and go for mushroom head filter?? currently i i am ok with the saga power but how much u think the filter can add to? they say the filter sound is very nice as well....
they say that x1r is good...can consider to buy...i dunno the price.... but for me... currently i have not much performance part in my saga.....
my question to anyone is.... should i drop in k&n filter to the standard filter or should i take out the plastic piece (sardin can) and put the connect and go for mushroom head filter?? currently i i am ok with the saga power but how much u think the filter can add to? they say the filter sound is very nice as well....
funny that someone mentioned turning radius will increase...how come?
i am not trying to say anything but especially in saga/iswara forums around malaysia, alot of pelik pelik modifications that will make the car turning radius larger lah...twin pots cant fit in normal absorbers lah...vr4 knuckle mod into saga lah...and especially, modifications on engine mountings which i see some of them outside with cut off panels, using small radiator or even modifications on the mountings attached to the body.
and frankly...personally i felt some of the members or non members have been taken for a ride...but then, the car is not mine and the money spent is not from me too...just felt it's a pity that so many mechanics out in this world and most of them claim to be the best...how to prove that they really know their shits?
let's start with the most simple quote i heard from the first time i am into cars 10 years ago until now.
1) SAGA cannot put VR-4 inside...if not body patah la v-house crack la mounting pecah la have to potong body la.....
--> my car has no such problems even with increased horsepower from the 4G63T.
2) SAGA cannot use full radiator have to use half length (steng), or can use but put outside the panel
--> WTF...the mech never modify the mounting BRACKET (NOT chassis) on the timing belt side! that's why your engine is so much infront until you have to cut the front panel.
3) SAGA VR-4 always patah driveshaft one have to custom la no choice have to use 1.3/1.5 gearbox la..
--> i have been using 1.5 driveshafts for god knows how long until i custom made one with hardened materials. let's say if my driveshaft patah halfway to anywhere within malaysia, i can just buy 1 saga driveshaft from any spare-part shop and then i can continue my journey already.
4) brakes :
hahahah this one is very subjective. there are many ways in malaysia that you can use to upgrade your brakes. the first and the most straightforward way is to upgrade to mirage disc brakes...but it's not really plug and play. the knuckles are similar, but then you have to change the knuckle back to saga. simply a kacang putih job of pump the bearings out and then fit in back the saga knuckle.
VR-4 :
the knuckles can be fit in directly into the saga mountings, but then the knuckles will have POSITIVE camber no matter what you do. so some will shave off the holes on the lower absorber mounting, invert (terbalik) the tie rod, shorten the whole steering rack and then some will have handling problems. (the car have massive torque steer during acceleration, and very very unstable during high speed driving). almost hit a tree at 180km/h while trying to tame the so-called "beast" for the wrong reasons in a friend's car with the same setup.
what i can let you guys know is :
if you want to pasang VR-4 twinpot or single pot brakes, you only need to use the brake rotor and caliper. use back the saga knuckles (see how i always stress...the saga knuckles are important for your handling) and open it up. so now you got one saga knuckle opened up and you got one opened up rotor and caliper. if your mechanic still dont know how to modify...
SiGh....dunno what to say already.
Wira :
there are some sagas i see before running on 1.6 wira disc setup. dont ask me how...i dunno cos i only see before never see how they modify. never really cared anyway.
5) handling
some of the memers complained that the handling is very bad for saga with torque steer, instability and high speeds, the car cari tiang/divider/longkang/pokok...if this case happens, please refer back to item 4. it correlates. trust me.
i think i stop here...i getting old already that's why grumbling here and there...but i wish to see a stop in pelik pelik modifications for sagas cos there's too many bad rumors about saga or iswara cant handle for nuts. if you want pictures to proof my claims, can. as soon as i come back from genting this wednesday i will post it up...first is the twin pots with saga knuckles.
lastly, if there is someone out there who "terasa pedas sebab cili itu panas", i apologise. Simply because i am too rude, but i want to stop all bullshits about improper modifications on sagas anymore. i can simply keep quiet, sell off my saga for peanuts and get a satria/putra/wira for my next project but what for? the car is sleeping and i dont care cos i got a second car. Still, the passion that keep me from selling off the car is because i want to prove the critics wrong that saga/iswara is not capable of competitive racing, and it needs time and money. money does not come easy beb...you think it's worth it to spend almost 2K every month just to maintain the bloody car?
SiGh...my parts stock is getting more and more stacked up in my workshop and still i havent really use all...
Guess i will stop here. mintak maaf for my rudeness.
Regards.
i am not trying to say anything but especially in saga/iswara forums around malaysia, alot of pelik pelik modifications that will make the car turning radius larger lah...twin pots cant fit in normal absorbers lah...vr4 knuckle mod into saga lah...and especially, modifications on engine mountings which i see some of them outside with cut off panels, using small radiator or even modifications on the mountings attached to the body.
and frankly...personally i felt some of the members or non members have been taken for a ride...but then, the car is not mine and the money spent is not from me too...just felt it's a pity that so many mechanics out in this world and most of them claim to be the best...how to prove that they really know their shits?
let's start with the most simple quote i heard from the first time i am into cars 10 years ago until now.
1) SAGA cannot put VR-4 inside...if not body patah la v-house crack la mounting pecah la have to potong body la.....
--> my car has no such problems even with increased horsepower from the 4G63T.
2) SAGA cannot use full radiator have to use half length (steng), or can use but put outside the panel
--> WTF...the mech never modify the mounting BRACKET (NOT chassis) on the timing belt side! that's why your engine is so much infront until you have to cut the front panel.
3) SAGA VR-4 always patah driveshaft one have to custom la no choice have to use 1.3/1.5 gearbox la..
--> i have been using 1.5 driveshafts for god knows how long until i custom made one with hardened materials. let's say if my driveshaft patah halfway to anywhere within malaysia, i can just buy 1 saga driveshaft from any spare-part shop and then i can continue my journey already.
4) brakes :
hahahah this one is very subjective. there are many ways in malaysia that you can use to upgrade your brakes. the first and the most straightforward way is to upgrade to mirage disc brakes...but it's not really plug and play. the knuckles are similar, but then you have to change the knuckle back to saga. simply a kacang putih job of pump the bearings out and then fit in back the saga knuckle.
VR-4 :
the knuckles can be fit in directly into the saga mountings, but then the knuckles will have POSITIVE camber no matter what you do. so some will shave off the holes on the lower absorber mounting, invert (terbalik) the tie rod, shorten the whole steering rack and then some will have handling problems. (the car have massive torque steer during acceleration, and very very unstable during high speed driving). almost hit a tree at 180km/h while trying to tame the so-called "beast" for the wrong reasons in a friend's car with the same setup.
what i can let you guys know is :
if you want to pasang VR-4 twinpot or single pot brakes, you only need to use the brake rotor and caliper. use back the saga knuckles (see how i always stress...the saga knuckles are important for your handling) and open it up. so now you got one saga knuckle opened up and you got one opened up rotor and caliper. if your mechanic still dont know how to modify...
SiGh....dunno what to say already.
Wira :
there are some sagas i see before running on 1.6 wira disc setup. dont ask me how...i dunno cos i only see before never see how they modify. never really cared anyway.
5) handling
some of the memers complained that the handling is very bad for saga with torque steer, instability and high speeds, the car cari tiang/divider/longkang/pokok...if this case happens, please refer back to item 4. it correlates. trust me.
i think i stop here...i getting old already that's why grumbling here and there...but i wish to see a stop in pelik pelik modifications for sagas cos there's too many bad rumors about saga or iswara cant handle for nuts. if you want pictures to proof my claims, can. as soon as i come back from genting this wednesday i will post it up...first is the twin pots with saga knuckles.
lastly, if there is someone out there who "terasa pedas sebab cili itu panas", i apologise. Simply because i am too rude, but i want to stop all bullshits about improper modifications on sagas anymore. i can simply keep quiet, sell off my saga for peanuts and get a satria/putra/wira for my next project but what for? the car is sleeping and i dont care cos i got a second car. Still, the passion that keep me from selling off the car is because i want to prove the critics wrong that saga/iswara is not capable of competitive racing, and it needs time and money. money does not come easy beb...you think it's worth it to spend almost 2K every month just to maintain the bloody car?
SiGh...my parts stock is getting more and more stacked up in my workshop and still i havent really use all...
Guess i will stop here. mintak maaf for my rudeness.
Regards.
wahhhh miton sifoooo...i see till my eyes also blur d worr...need to go char kuat liow like this ehehehehhehehe :p
Well said dude.
And it's NOT rude at all.
I like this part, esp. "Still, the passion that keep me from selling off the car is because i want to prove the critics wrong that saga/iswara is not capable of competitive racing"
You READ and SHARE my mind/vision. Hehehe..
And it's NOT rude at all.
I like this part, esp. "Still, the passion that keep me from selling off the car is because i want to prove the critics wrong that saga/iswara is not capable of competitive racing"
You READ and SHARE my mind/vision. Hehehe..
khoyos said:
Hahah, yeah right - with the current fuel price increase, it has to stay at home...hahaha
btw, I accidentally met Cipan near SIC Petronas station yesterday. Was on his way back from track day?
Cipan, if you are reading this, - was driving around with my family members...so can't really spend a long time for a proper chat, next round dude! Congrats on the purchase of the side mirrors. Freaking rare item, take a good care of it. At first I thought its for khoyos' wagon - who knows he need 4 rearview mirrors for his ride!
miton, no torque steer for my car. maybe because the engine doesnt have as much power as others...
darahhitam, i couldnt buy any more stuffs this month. bought many stuffs last month, money finish already. btw i got a fiore wagon bonnet already, and it came with a side mirror (left side only). fiore/b13 side mirror will come much later...
darahhitam, i couldnt buy any more stuffs this month. bought many stuffs last month, money finish already. btw i got a fiore wagon bonnet already, and it came with a side mirror (left side only). fiore/b13 side mirror will come much later...
joe....not because no power...
as i said...must do proper mods not those pelik pelik type.
if your car not power who else leh?! hehehehehe...unker fred ah?
Oi sure or not you want to char kuat? i coming up this weekend...dun chau lou ah!
as i said...must do proper mods not those pelik pelik type.
if your car not power who else leh?! hehehehehe...unker fred ah?
Oi sure or not you want to char kuat? i coming up this weekend...dun chau lou ah!
MitonCT26 said:
allo unker... wat time u coming? call/sms me laaa 012 2687273... ehhehehehe :p
uh..
the seremban monster cumin to town ah...??? hv to hibernate my car edi.. pg jumpa senyum2 onli laa..
muah muah muah..
the seremban monster cumin to town ah...??? hv to hibernate my car edi.. pg jumpa senyum2 onli laa..
muah muah muah..
okie guys time to hide your rides this week, keep at home dont go long kai monster coming monster coming hehe :regular_smile:
wei tun where u hilang too hehe u missed out on one massive SIOC TT :regular_smile:
check out the sioc gallery
wei tun where u hilang too hehe u missed out on one massive SIOC TT :regular_smile:
check out the sioc gallery
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darahhitam said:
no prob bro...next time can yam cha2.. :_:
hi everyone, is it upgrading a bigger brake servo will help in braking? What type should i use n where i can get it? and is brake servo same as brake pump?
thx cheers
thx cheers
if u upgrade brake servo without upgrading calipers n discs, sometimes ur brake will be too sensitive. slight tap of the brake pedal will lock the brakes. not necessarily all cars will become like that. some cases only...
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